Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating How can I get crystal clear transparent dish washing liquid.

  • Gunther

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    January 30, 2019 at 12:48 am

    You can’t get a clear product out of LABSA + NaOH as the resulting sulfonate is yellow colored.
    For a crystal clear formulation you’d need a shampoo-like formula:
    SLES+SLS, CAPB and alkanolamide

  • myatmyat

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    March 18, 2019 at 9:33 am

    CMC powder is cloudy?

  • myatmyat

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    March 18, 2019 at 9:36 am

    which are the best formula for transparent dis wash liquid soap?

  • Gunther

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    March 18, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    myatmyat said:

    which are the best formula for transparent dis wash liquid soap?

    A shampoo-like SLES+SLS+CAPB formulation will work fine and it’s (mostly) non-irritating, but it doesn’t cut grease as well as sulfonates do.

    You can add some ethoxylated fatty alcohol to the above formulation in order to improve grease cutting, while remaining clear.

  • smok

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    March 20, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Gunther said:

    myatmyat said:

    which are the best formula for transparent dis wash liquid soap?

    A shampoo-like SLES+SLS+CAPB formulation will work fine and it’s (mostly) non-irritating, but it doesn’t cut grease as well as sulfonates do.

    You can add some ethoxylated fatty alcohol to the above formulation in order to improve grease cutting, while remaining clear.

    why all company’s use silfonates  and the product is very transparent

  • smok

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    March 20, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Gunther said:

    myatmyat said:

    which are the best formula for transparent dis wash liquid soap?

    A shampoo-like SLES+SLS+CAPB formulation will work fine and it’s (mostly) non-irritating, but it doesn’t cut grease as well as sulfonates do.

    You can add some ethoxylated fatty alcohol to the above formulation in order to improve grease cutting, while remaining clear.

    if it doesn’t cut grease  we can not call it dish waching

  • smok

    Member
    March 20, 2019 at 9:52 am

    what do you think if you try TEA  INSTEAD OF NAOH

  • myatmyat

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    March 30, 2019 at 5:38 pm

     thanks! Gunther :)
    what amount I can add fatty alcohol in 10 liter?

  • Aziz

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    March 31, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    smok said:

    what do you think if you try TEA  INSTEAD OF NAOH

    Do you know the price difference . 

  • myatmyat

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    April 6, 2019 at 5:15 am

    Thanks you for everything!!
    I make to start shampoo liquid,
    please tell me what I need?

  • Quimico

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    April 19, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Water balance TO 100
    Caustic soda 99% 1.3
    LABSA 96%             11
    SLES 70%                7
    DEA                           2
    STPP                        1.5
    SALT                          1.5
       

  • Gunther

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    April 20, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    smok said:

    Gunther said:

    myatmyat said:

    which are the best formula for transparent dis wash liquid soap?

    A shampoo-like SLES+SLS+CAPB formulation will work fine and it’s (mostly) non-irritating, but it doesn’t cut grease as well as sulfonates do.

    You can add some ethoxylated fatty alcohol to the above formulation in order to improve grease cutting, while remaining clear.

    why all company’s use silfonates  and the product is very transparent

    Do you have a picture or a commercial, sulfonate based formulation that is actually transparent?
    Please also post a pic of the label so we can see that it actually contains sulfonates.

  • Ahmad

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    April 26, 2019 at 9:51 am

    Hello,
    what is that slimy slow moving property in liquid dish wash of max?
    i trued to increase surfactant and tried to enhance its thickness but still did not get that kinda result.
    Is there any kind of slimy product like glue or else is used in it? 

  • Ahmad

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    April 26, 2019 at 9:54 am

    one more thing the perfume that is essential oil (oil based) will drop the viscosity of the liquid, is it due to oily nature of the perfume that is merged to the oil attractive part of the surfactant and reduces its efficiency?

  • Ahmad

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    April 26, 2019 at 9:57 am

    for the preservatives i use DMDM, but still need suggestions to increase the amount of preservatives or stick to only one?
    Methyle paraben is good but its slightly soluble in water and infer in the thickness of the liquid dish wash.

  • Gunther

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    April 27, 2019 at 1:44 am

    Ahmad said:

    Hello,
    what is that slimy slow moving property in liquid dish wash of max?
    i trued to increase surfactant and tried to enhance its thickness but still did not get that kinda result.
    Is there any kind of slimy product like glue or else is used in it? 

    Max? Is that a brand?
    What are their ingredients?

  • Ahmad

    Member
    April 27, 2019 at 11:00 am

    Gunther said:

    Ahmad said:

    Hello,
    what is that slimy slow moving property in liquid dish wash of max?
    i trued to increase surfactant and tried to enhance its thickness but still did not get that kinda result.
    Is there any kind of slimy product like glue or else is used in it? 

    Max? Is that a brand?
    What are their ingredients?

    yes it’s a brand of Unilever i guess…

  • Avirock

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    May 9, 2019 at 5:53 am

    Please anybody tell us the roles of all these products in dishwash

    Please get the following information.

    Water 86.3%

    LABSA 9.4 %

    NaOH 1.25%

    CDEA 2.7%

    EDTA .1%

     Sodium chloride .2,%

  • Gunther

    Member
    May 9, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    Avirock said:

    Please anybody tell us the roles of all these products in dishwash

    Please get the following information.

    Water 86.3%

    LABSA 9.4 %

    NaOH 1.25%

    CDEA 2.7%

    EDTA .1%

     Sodium chloride .2,%

    Water: solvent

    LABSA + NaOH: they react to make Sodium alkylbenzene sulfonate, the surfactant

    CDEA: Improves foam height and stability

    EDTA: Makes the preservative (which ain’t there) work better, improves foaming in hard water.

    Sodium chloride: salt, thickens the formulation

  • Avirock

    Member
    May 11, 2019 at 5:25 am

    Thanks gunther

  • Kingstone

    Member
    June 1, 2019 at 4:09 am

    Have you solved the problem of clarity ?

  • Gunther

    Member
    June 3, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    smok said:

    what do you think if you try TEA  INSTEAD OF NAOH

    That won’t work.
    TEA-linear alkylbenzene sulfonate is yellow-orange colored, not clear.

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