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Help! Neutralizer Substitue for Carbopol Clear / Carbomer needed
Hi all, I’m making a hair jelly based on a Lubrizol formula. They use Aminomethyl Propanol (95% TS), AMP-Ultra ® PC 2000as the neutralizer. Can I substitute with triethanolamine?
1. Deionized Water 89.45 Diluent
2. Carbomer, Carbopol®* CLEAR polymer 0.90 Rheology Modifier
3. Acrylates Crosspolymer-3 (31% TS), Fixate™* Freestyle polymer 4.00 Hair Fixative
4. - Dye - No color
5. Phenoxyethanol (and) Ethylhexylglycerin, Euxyl® PE 9010 0.50 Preservative
B. 6. Aminomethyl Propanol (95% TS), AMP-Ultra ® PC 2000 1.30 Neutralizer
C. 7. Deionized Water 1.00 Diluent
8. Propylene Glycol 0.50 Humectant
9. Fragrance, 0.10 Fragrance
10. Polysorbate 20 0.80 Solubilizer D.11. Methyl Gluceth-20 Glucam™* E-20 humectant 1.00 Humectant
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This discussion was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by
MDBeauty.
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This discussion was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by
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You can use TEA or 10% NaOH (or KOH) solution
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Thanks!
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Just to add to @marimaster_3991 comment here: if using triethanolamine be sure to use the 99% not the 85% “freeze protected” grade which has free DEA and unacceptable in the USA. You will get somewhat different hair fixation results using the alkaline hydroxides since AMP, TEA and tromethamine contribute plasticizing to the fixative polymer. Also be advised Glucam E-20 is a solubilizer more than it is a humectant, so combine that in a pre-mix with the Polysorbate 20, Euxyl 9010, and your fragrance for extra gel clarity. Finally, if you need a really clear hair gel and want to save a LOT of money, use Polygel HG from 3V Sigma USA instead of the Carbopol CLEAR stuff. Same exact outcome, much lower cost. (full disclosure: I am the applications director for 3V Sigma USA)
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Thank you. Do you have any hair jelly base formulas using the recommended product? Also how do I get samples?
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