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    Posted by rishabhsoti on August 3, 2020 at 3:01 pm
    we are using below ingredients in making powder to liquid handwash in the ratio mentioned below where the final 10gm powder is sufficient to make 200 ml handwash. 
    SLS Powder ====170 gm
    Aos  Powder


    30gm
    Borax           


    5gm
    salt


    30 gm
    But the issue is that i am not getting any  thickness in the product when mix powder in 200ml water  .Is anyone have idea about the same ? 
    letsalcido replied 4 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • nikolatesla23

    Member
    August 4, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    You need a thickening agent in your formulation.
    But if you are using SLES, salt (sodium chloride) would serve as the thickener. 

  • Farrukh

    Member
    August 4, 2020 at 4:43 pm

    As for thickening agent you should use HEC

  • afatoh

    Member
    August 4, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    Here there is no ethylene oxide group so it would not be beneficial to use electrolyte.
    I suggest use xanthan gum together with PQ10

  • letsalcido

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 1:04 am

    Do you mean Alpha Olefin Sulfonate by AOS?


    Both SLS and AOS should be able to thicken with salt if at high enough concentration.

    Your powder is roughly:
    SLS — 72%

    AOS — 13%
    Borax — 2%
    Salt — 13%

    10g of that for a total solution of 200g gives you 3.5% SLS, 0.565% AOS and 0.565% Salt.

    Your surfactant active matter is very low at a 5% solution of this mix, you probably need to dissolve 20g or 30g to a final 200g solution to see any thickness from salt (10-15% solution of your mix). Otherwise this needs to go in a foaming bottle. 

  • rishabhsoti

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 3:50 am

    @letsalcido  ->

    Actually if you search on google regarding godrej magic powder to liquid handwash you come to know that 10g of there sachet is sufficient to make 200 ml handwash. And i want to make something like that , the powder which i make is sufficient to make foam in 200ml water but is not thick .i want to add something which make it thick and gel like solution with smoothness.So can you suggest me something for the same.

    @nikolatesla23

  • rishabhsoti

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 3:51 am

    @Farrukh @afatoh  Thanks guys for your suggestions  i will look into this

  • nikolatesla23

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    @rishabhsoti
    I agree with @afatoh , you may use xanthan gum.
    You could also try adding carboxymethyl cellulose (CMC) as thickening agent. 

  • letsalcido

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @rishabhsoti sure. What I said still stands, that you will not be able to thicken that percentage of anionic surfactant with salt. It’s too low.

    Like everyone else says, you’ll need a gum or polymer, but the skin feel won’t be the same.

  • rishabhsoti

    Member
    August 7, 2020 at 10:27 am

    @letsalcido agreed.. as i have allready tried it .
    @nikolatesla23 @letsalcido Can you suggest me any softning agent in powder form as the powder is very harsh on my hand 

  • rishabhsoti

    Member
    August 7, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    @letsalcido so what can be the best alternative than?

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