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Hair Shampoo manufacture
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Nothing is going to be cheaper or healthier than salt.
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Since we are talking about the thickener, anyone is using Glucamate™ DOE-120 thickener?Source: https://www.lubrizol.com/en/personal-care/products/product-finder/products-data/163?productname=Glucamate%E2%84%A2%20DOE-120%20thickener
It’s not cheaper, not sure about healthier since the concentration needed is very little (based on some formulation I’ve seen). -
No, but I use Glucamate VLT which is a liquid thickener. It’s excellent.
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Belassi can it be used in a cold process and what % works best?
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Yes it works fine in cold process. The percentage depends on your starting viscosity. Since it is an expensive thickener I use a combination to achieve the required viscosity, typically 1% cocamide MEA, 1.5% PEG-150 distearate, and 2% (Q/S) of glucamate VLT. The VLT contains propanediol which enhances the preservatives, we only use 0.4% sodium benzoate and it’s proved satisfactory for at least a 6 month shelf life.
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thank you sir
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In the past i had layer separations issues ussing as viscosifier CMC ór xanthan gum with LABSA in a economy liquid laundry detergent, HEC would be a better option, but in my country hec is like 20 times more expensive than CMC, so we sticked with DEA/Betaine or MEA and salt.
In my country theres a trend of “no-salt shampoo” like 50% of the shampoo market is “saltfree”, almost all manufactures uses cmc as thickener and/or protamate 6000ds (peg 150 diestearate), we are ussing as preservative only 0.5%, 4ph-5ph of Sodium benzoate and we have shampoo lasting for more than 1 year.
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talking about the big trend in my country, i have seen a some manufacturers in my country that claims “salt free” and uses Magnesium or other salts to fool users.
And our factory have recived a lot of calls asking and complaining: why our shampoo claims “salt free” and we list in our ingredients “sodium lauryl/laureth sulphate” .
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In my country sulphate free is big
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Same here in Mexico Luis. I made a complaint to the authorities about a company claiming “salt-free”, when they are using potassium chloride. Of course, nothing was done.
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I recently saw a shampoo that claims: sulphate free, salt free, edta free, Dea free, bht/paraben free, ecocert… Almost all the layer was filled with that. If this keeps going on i think that we will have a Shampoo without shampoo.
By the way those trends and niches are an oportunity in my country for offering shampoo without being a competition for the big brands, basically small manufactures are the only ones that offer saltfree shampoo, and saltfree shampoo is about 50% of the market, thats a big deal.
Hi @Belassi nice to see you over here, latin-american market is full of scammers, in the case of saltfree shampoo almost all the customers belive that salt is basically sodium.
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@luiscuevasii - wouldn’t they also complain about Sodium Benzoate? (it’s also a salt)
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These free from claims are going to be more problematic for these companies in the end than they are positive for Marketing. From some information passed by the FTC, soon they may need to provide testing to prove free from claims. It is not enough to avoid the inclusion, but some raw materials may contribute these free from ingredients as well.
It also is misinterpreted by laypersons. I once heard someone complain about alcohol-free products because they used Cetyl alcohol. A bit of a disconnect there.
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@Perry customers complains more often about sodium lauryl or laureth sulphate because its at the begining of the ingredients list.
In my country its bassically a fashion trend, I dont even Know why salt-free shampoo has become so famous arround here. Nobody is concerned about dea or parabens.I might be generalizing but in South América a shampoo only needs to pass microbiology test to be sell, so ussing potasium chloride and claims salt-free its fine.
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I was at the supermarket yesterday and the latest marketing hooks were the “detox” shampoos. Meaning, cutting out sterates to make a transparent product and reducing the active matter. So it’s basically SLS, CAPB, salt or a polyquat, and fragance. Oh yes, and parabens free. Most of what I saw had a blend of thiazolinones as preservative. And the most expensive ones had an oil/butter like karite, coconut, aloe vera or whatever. Those had “natural” written, and in small print “derivatives of natural… blah blah”, so technically they are not lying.
So basically they are selling a cheaper product with a huge profit thanks to marketing. Those were more expensive than regular shampoos
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