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  • Hair Pomade hold is weak

    Posted by Louiswch on October 27, 2019 at 3:35 pm
    Hi guys, below are my Loi. I would like to ask how can i actually get a stronger hold. The final product appeared cakey and the hold is not strong enough. Anyone know how can i achieve a stronger hold?

    Appreciate your advice

    Water Phase
    Aqua 48%
    Polysorbate 80 3%

    Oil Phase 
    Olive Butter 10% 
    Lanolin 14%
    Jojoba Pearls 6%

    PEG40 Castor Oil 4%
    Cet. Glucoside 3%

    Clay Phase 
    Kaolin Clay 4%
    Bentonite 2%
    Silica 1%

    Others
    Butylene Glycol 2%
    Glycerin 2%
    Tocopherol 0.5%
    Essential oil 0.5%
    RawMaterialGirl replied 5 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    October 27, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    I am not a hair styling products expert, but you don’t have anything for a hold. You need PVP.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    October 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    Correct, you have no styling polymer in the product. You won’t get much long lasting hold without it.  PVP or PVP/VA should do the trick. And the Jojoba pearls aren’t really doing much.

  • Louiswch

    Member
    October 28, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Perry said:

    Correct, you have no styling polymer in the product. You won’t get much long lasting hold without it.  PVP or PVP/VA should do the trick. And the Jojoba pearls aren’t really doing much.

    I am not a hair styling products expert, but you don’t have anything for a hold. You need PVP.

    Hi guys, Thanks for your input. I will get the PVP/VA and get it tested when it’s here. But just checking, will this PVP/VA affect my clay product texture? 

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    October 28, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    No, it should not affect the product texture.

  • simflyer905

    Member
    November 9, 2019 at 4:30 pm

    The PVP created a stickyness which I didn’t like for my gel/wax formulation, but try it and share the results!

  • KingRoland78

    Member
    November 13, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    Is this suppose to be a matte product??

  • RawMaterialGirl

    Member
    December 5, 2019 at 4:39 am

    Even with PVP you’re not going to get much hold - you would have too many plasticizers in the formula. 

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