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Hair mask with ‘spider-web’ effect
Hey friends
I need some help to formulate a hair mask that has a ‘spider-web’ effect. For those who never saw it (I believe that this is not as popular in Europe/USA as it is in my country), products with this effect forms a large fiber-like structure during application (below you can see a picture of the product).
The thing is, I already know the main ingredients used to create this effect (PEG-90M and PEG-180M), but getting samples of them is being kind of difficult. Also, I dind’t find suppliers that sell them in a small quantity. That being said, I’d like to know if anyone knows any other ingredient that create this type of effect. I was working with Styleze W-17 (Polyquaternium-55) the other day and noticed that the raw material itself has this property of spider web. Does anyone knows if it can create a spider-web effect when used in a formulation?
Any help/suggestion is welcome! Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
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Very interesting!
I’ve never seen this kind of product before. Can you tell if this spider web effect has any functionality or is it just a visual appeal?
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Hello!
This type of product was popular in the UK in the mid-late 2000’s. Styleze W-17 does have a spider-web effect but nowhere near as strong as PEG-90M. I don’t think you’d get ‘fibres’ as long as in the photo using PQ-55 alone, but if you combine it with PVP K-90, avoid Acrylate rheology modifiers and select your waxes and emulsifiers carefully you will get a good ‘spider-web’ or ‘fibre’ effect.
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I created a product like this back in the early 2000s. Sadly, PEG-90M is needed if you want the best effect. Essential Ingredients even had a starting Formulation. It can be tricky in manufacturing. https://www.happi.com/contents/view_formulary/2009-03-01/spider-web-crme-wax/ -
Empress_Labs said:Hello!
This type of product was popular in the UK in the mid-late 2000’s. Styleze W-17 does have a spider-web effect but nowhere near as strong as PEG-90M. I don’t think you’d get ‘fibres’ as long as in the photo using PQ-55 alone, but if you combine it with PVP K-90, avoid Acrylate rheology modifiers and select your waxes and emulsifiers carefully you will get a good ‘spider-web’ or ‘fibre’ effect.
Good luck!Hey! Thank you so much for your comment.
This is actually kinda funny. People in my country love products with this effect, but while I was searching for products with this same effect in europe/USA I couldnt find much stuff.
I’m still trying to get PEG-90M or PEG-180M, but in the mean time I’ll try to develop something using some alternatives, as you pointed out. I think that maybe it won’t be as ‘fibery’ as the image that I attached, but I’ll try.
Kind regards
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Microformulation said:I created a product like this back in the early 2000s. Sadly, PEG-90M is needed if you want the best effect. Essential Ingredients even had a starting Formulation. It can be tricky in manufacturing. https://www.happi.com/contents/view_formulary/2009-03-01/spider-web-crme-wax/
Thank you so much for the heads up!
This is a very interesting starting formula. Hope I can get a sample of PEG-90M soon.
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Lab said:Very interesting!
I’ve never seen this kind of product before. Can you tell if this spider web effect has any functionality or is it just a visual appeal?
It can have some effect in the lubricity of the product but overall is just a visual/sensory appeal.
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The Spider Web function really adds little to the finished result.As mentioned, the commercial scale-up process for the Formulations can be tricky. We had no issue with the PEG-90M in the lab. However, the manufacturer had to work to get it dispersed in an 800 KG batch.
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tecnico3vinia said:Lab said:Very interesting!
I’ve never seen this kind of product before. Can you tell if this spider web effect has any functionality or is it just a visual appeal?
It can have some effect in the lubricity of the product but overall is just a visual/sensory appeal.
Pretty nice to know! Sounds funny to play and apply in the hair, but definitely it’s not for me
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