Guar gum + xanthan gum as a suspension agent?

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Guar gum + xanthan gum as a suspension agent?

Posted by suswang8 on February 22, 2023 at 11:10 am

For the following hair conditioner…..

https://joshrosebrook.com/products/balance-conditioner

Ingredient list: *Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Aqua, *Coconut Oil, *Camelina Oil, *Meadowfoam Seed Oil, *Olive Oil, *Hemp Seed Oil, *Shea Butter, *Vegetable Glycerin, *Rosemary leaf, *Calendula, *Nettle, *Catnip, *Alfalfa, *Rose Hips, *Flax, *Linden flowers, *Peppermint, *Dandelion, *Burdock, *Horsetail, *Sage, *Chamomile, *Ginseng, *Oregano, *Thyme, *Lavender, *Goldenseal, *Cinnamon, *Cayenne, *Guar Gum, §Xanthan Gum, Potassium Sorbate,*Vinegar, †Litsea Cubeba Essential Oil, †Rose Essential oil, †Rosemary Essential Oil, †Orange Essential Oil.

I emailed them to ask what was the emulsifier here, as the ingredient list looked a bit suspect, and they said, “We have developed a proprietary physical emulsification method, that, along with the Xanthan and Guar gums, allows our shampoos and conditioners to achieve their smooth, silky consistency.”

Thoughts?

Notachemist replied 1 year, 5 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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ketchito

Member
February 22, 2023 at 8:21 pm

They have catnip in that product ????…ok, to your question, I believe they are just suspending oils using the thickening synergy between guar and xanthan gum. That’s a method as old as corrupt politicians.
Abdullah

Member
February 22, 2023 at 10:17 pm

In the blend only xanthan gum has suspension powder. Synergy is only for viscosity @ ratio 8:2 guar: xanthan. If they are using high amount of gum it may not be pleasant for hair.
- ketchito
  
  Member
  February 23, 2023 at 6:26 am
  
  https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/1097-0010(20000915)80:12<1722::AID-JSFA708>3.0.CO;2-X#:~:text=Mixtures%20of%20xanthan%20and%20guar,dissolution%20temperature%20of%20both%20gums.
  - Abdullah
    
    Member
    February 23, 2023 at 6:36 am
    
    Can’t open the page
    - Paprik
      
      Member
      February 23, 2023 at 11:37 am
      
      Do not click on the link, copy the whole link,
      - Abdullah
        
        Member
        February 23, 2023 at 7:39 pm
        
        Worked
        
        Thanks
fareloz

Member
February 23, 2023 at 3:56 am

I like how they marked Xanthan Gum as “sourced from non-GMO plant”. Does it mean everything else is from GMO-plants?))))
Notachemist

Member
July 4, 2023 at 1:09 am

Can those gums be used for a toothpaste?

I want to make a toothpaste with oil cinnamon and cayenne. But the powders just settle if it’s too much oil but if it’s not enought it doesn’t flow…any ideas