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  • Formula missing an ingredient?

    Posted by Symbiosis on July 22, 2022 at 2:10 am
    Hey guys, this is my first post.
    Below is the ingredient list for salt hair spray. My question is where is the solubilizer for the oils, am I missing something? 

    Water (Aqua), Sea Salt (Sodium Chloride), Glycerin, Hydrolyzed Quinoa
    Protein, Honeysuckle (Lonicera japonica) Flower Extract, *Green Tea
    Gunpowder (Camellia sinensis) Extract, *Rooibos (Aspalathus linearis)
    Leaf Extract, Argan (Argania spinosa) Oil, DL-Panthenol, Tocopherol,
    Citric Acid

    PhilGeis replied 2 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Squinny

    Member
    July 22, 2022 at 2:25 am

    Dont know but the only Oil I can see is Argan Oil and likely below or equal to 1%  and the other ingredients before that are likely all Water or Glycerin based.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    July 22, 2022 at 8:31 am

    Speaking of things missing…how about the weak preservative…the Honeysuckle?  I have wanted to ask the good Dr @PhilGeis …. I have always wondered if this was just the second act of GSE?  It contains para-hydroxy benzoic acid, so they can probably get by with spiking it with parabens?  Any insight on this preservative ruse?  (Don’t worry…no plans on switching to it…just always curious.)

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    July 22, 2022 at 11:22 am

    Think it’s BS.  Like all the true naturals, essential oils, hydrosols, etc. - the composition will vary greatly - individual constituents by orders of magnitude-  between batches.  So even if parabens, and analysis can be flawed in  these reports, you can’t count on it.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    July 22, 2022 at 1:19 pm

    @dazed:

    There is no solubilizer.  The Argan Oil and Tocopherol are almost certainly added at less than 0.5% each, so they just jammed them together.

    @Gaillotion:  I don’t think the Honeysuckle included in this formula is intended as a preservative, but rather simply as a plant extract and they are relying on a very high load of salt to provide the preservation. 

    The honeysuckle extract that is sold as a preservative is comprised of two different species of honeysuckle extract:  Lonicera Caprifolium (honeysuckle) flower extract, Lonicera Japonica (honeysuckle) flower extract

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