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Formula Advice: Gentle Shampoo + Body Wash
Camel replied 2 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 33 Replies
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ketchito said:I’d replace coco sulfate (it’s very similar to lauryl sulfate). Try a more ethoxylated surfactant, like sodium laureth-3 sulfate (or higher).
@ketchito - Thank you for the suggestion. I purchased SCS because it was cheaper than SLS and SLES and I thought it would function similarly.
Can you explain more about why you don’t recommend it?
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Camel said:ketchito said:I’d replace coco sulfate (it’s very similar to lauryl sulfate). Try a more ethoxylated surfactant, like sodium laureth-3 sulfate (or higher).
@ketchito - Thank you for the suggestion. I purchased SCS because it was cheaper than SLS and SLES and I thought it would function similarly.
Can you explain more about why you don’t recommend it?
Because usually it is more expensive and harsher. If it is less expensive then use it. No problem.
It was just suggestions
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fyi
You are dealing with a sensitive population. Please pay special attention to preservation, testing and manufacturing quality.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019567011100020X -
@Abdullah - Thank you for clarifying; I have never used a sulfate before, so they are all new to me.
@PhilGeis - Thank you for providing that article. Actually, I am only making this product for myself now. It was originally intended for my godson, but I decided I didn’t feel comfortable allowing a three year old child to use a homemade product, so I only use it myself and I don’t sell anything! ????
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Camel said:ketchito said:I’d replace coco sulfate (it’s very similar to lauryl sulfate). Try a more ethoxylated surfactant, like sodium laureth-3 sulfate (or higher).
@ketchito - Thank you for the suggestion. I purchased SCS because it was cheaper than SLS and SLES and I thought it would function similarly.
Can you explain more about why you don’t recommend it?
Both Coco sulfate and SLS are non ethoxylated anionic surfactants, and they are very good degreasers, but a bit harsher for kids. Usually, more ethoxylated surfactants are prefered in these kind of products.
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ketchito said:Both Coco sulfate and SLS are non ethoxylated anionic surfactants, and they are very good degreasers, but a bit harsher for kids. Usually, more ethoxylated surfactants are prefered in these kind of products.
Thank you for that information! I should have clarified that I no longer intend on using this product on my kid because of the lack of testing. It is only for my personal use now. I actually tried it as a face cleanser and it worked really well without making my skin feel stripped.
Interestingly enough, I have seen baby products that use SCS as the second ingredient, but I understand why it wouldn’t be the best choice when there are more gentle surfactants available.
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For preservative use DMDM hydantoin. Inexpensive and effective
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