Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Effect of NACL on cationic/anionic interaction of cationic guar

  • ketchito

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    May 16, 2024 at 6:49 am

    Because in solution, you’ll have free chrolide and sodium ions that could interact with polymer’s ionic groups, shielding them.

    • Abdullah

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      May 16, 2024 at 8:27 am

      So isn’t the calcium in water doing the same thing?

  • ketchito

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    May 17, 2024 at 6:44 am

    The problem with calcium as with any other divalent ion, is that it coils the anionic polymer or at least, doesn’t let it expand, impairing the hydration process. Monovalent ions like sodium don’t do this and also easier to be exchanged for another cation.

    • Abdullah

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      May 17, 2024 at 10:03 am

      @ketchito thanks

      How will calcium effect cationic polymer like cationic guar?

      • ketchito

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        May 18, 2024 at 6:57 am

        For instance, if you use calciul chloride, in the presence of a cationic polymer, calcium ions won’t interact directly with the polymer, but it’d be chloride ions since they have opposite charge to toe positive ones in the polymer. As I see it, chloride negative charges will attach and detach in solution like any other monovalent ion, without any detrimental effect. The problem would be if you add an anionic surfactant, since calcium ion would compete with the polymer to interact with the anionic surfactant.

        • Abdullah

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          May 19, 2024 at 2:22 am

          Thanks

        • Abdullah

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          May 19, 2024 at 2:30 am

          If i add NACL to hard water, then anionic polymer, would chloride interact with calcium and then anionic polymer expand fully or not?

  • ketchito

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    May 20, 2024 at 7:19 am

    For that you need a chelant. Inorganic ions tend to attach and detach in solution, but chelants bind strongly to ions.

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