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Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium Chloride
Hello!
Can anyone suggest me an alternate exfoliator for Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium Chloride? -
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Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium Chloride is a fairly unusual cationic detergent used mostly as a hair conditioner. It is NOT an exfoliator although it may be included in exfoliator products for other reasons.
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@johnb
Sir! if it is used with Polyacrylic Acid it gives exfoliating property. But it is very costly & not easily available in India. So i am looking for its alternative. -
Please explain how it does this or give a link.
I can find no references to the end use that you claim.
I still maintain that it is a cationic detergent most often used as a hair conditioner. However, it a an uncommon material (perhaps because of its high cost).
Check out https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/21917627#section=Top
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@johnb
Sir! Are u asking how does it gives exfoliating property? -
What I am asking is for a reference to where you get the information that this substance does have the property of being an exfoliant.
I cannot believe that a material normally used as a hair conditioner will itself have exfoliating properties. Possibly it is included in the product for another purpose.
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@johnb
Sir! I dont have any link. Our principal from China have this chemical. They told about this property.I also try to get information on internet but i didn’t get anything. But when i tried gel with this it gives exfoliating property. -
Just disperse polyacrylic acid in water completely, don’t nutralize it & add Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium Chloride to it. Mix well.
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Sorry, I just don’t believe it unless it is merely a minor ingredient in a polyacrylic acid “balling” exfoliator.
Does your Chinese principal explain anything about what they are trying to sell you?
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@johnb
Sir! If u have this material u will try. -
I don’t have the material.
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@johnb
NO sir! our principal doesn’t tell us but they just give hint to us about its exfoliating property.
I just find a link.
Check this link: http://asia.in-cosmetics.com/en/Exhibitors/2128605/Guangzhou-Jaonron-Trading-Co-Ltd/Products/1062793/Dodecylhexadecyltrimonium-chloride -
I still do not believe it.
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@johnb
I have only one reference that i give u… -
I made both gel & spray with it…
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Your understanding of the word “exfoliator” must be different to mine.
My (and the majority of others) understanding of exfoliator is “an item or cosmetic composition to be applied to, or rubbed on to, the suface of the skin with the intention of removing surplus skin tissue.”
I cannot see any way that a cationic detergent can, in itself, have this action.
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@Shubh123 that’s a cationic surfactant and when mixed with your anionic acid it gives a precipitate. Your principal is making you believe that it has exfoliating property where actually the complex just balls on skin when applied. Please note that cationic and anionic are highly incompatible, there is no way you could use them in a properly stable formula.
Take a sample of hair gel and add a little of that so called exfoliator. It will fall apart. -
i agree with @Chemist77. Here in our country marketers hyped this product so well every company wanted their own version. the “peeling” concept boomed to include facial gels, body gels, “peeling” deodorant, “peeling” scrub, “peeling” lotion etc. In reality, this is actually all make believe @Shubh123. Unless there is a chemical exfoliator in your gel.
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@crisbaysauli
Thnx! I am agree with u bcoz our principal send formulation using this chemical under name peeling gel. But i didn’t find any reference about its property. -
@Chemist77
Thnx chemist77! So if use another cationic surfactant then it also give same effect? -
Any cationic will complex out with anionic though there are some milder ones which in moderation show some compatibility.
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@Chemist77
I am trying with cetrimonium chloride.. -
I think it will be best if you do some trials and establish empirically how a cationic and anionic will react.
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@Chemist77
Yes Sir! I will take some trials now.
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