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  • conditioning shampoo not good

    Posted by mmarr on August 2, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    Hello everyone, i had a problem formulating conditioning hair shampoo. I put PQ10 0.3% and dimethiconol & TEA dodecylbenzene sulfonate 3% in my formulation for conditioning purposes, but not conditioning enough. I can still feel something like too clean, not very smooth on my hair. is it possible it from other thing? im using Lauryl betaine, lauryl glucoside, sodium cocoyl isethionate and sodium cocoyl methyl taurate as my surfactants since this shampoo formulated for sensitive skin. tq in advanced.

    mmarr replied 1 year, 4 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • evchem2

    Member
    August 2, 2023 at 8:56 pm

    TEA dodecylbenzene sulfonate is an anionic detergent, I would not expect this to provide conditioning benefits. Can you remove this and try again?

    • mmarr

      Member
      August 2, 2023 at 9:15 pm

      this one actually mixed solution with dimethiconol. I used BRB 1018.

  • Paprik

    Member
    August 2, 2023 at 9:23 pm

    You would need to supply your full formula with inputs in % w/w.

    Otherwise we can only guess.

    • mmarr

      Member
      August 2, 2023 at 9:35 pm

      aqua- q.s

      edta-0.1

      glycerin-1

      peg-150 -0.5

      carbomer-0.3

      glyceryl distearate(pearlizing agent)-0.5

      lauryl betaine-8

      lauryl glucoside-4

      sodium cocoyl methyl taurate-4

      sodium cocoyl isethionate-4

      dimethiconol & TEA-3

      PQ10-0.3

      Preservative

      • ketchito

        Member
        August 2, 2023 at 10:50 pm

        BRB 1018 is at 60% active, so 3% of the ingredient can still be a bit low. Try increasing the level or adding some dimethicone fluid. You could also do a coacervation test to see if your system produces a required amount of coacervate.

        • mmarr

          Member
          August 3, 2023 at 12:26 am

          sorry, if you dont mind, can u explain how to do coacervate test?

  • ketchito

    Member
    August 3, 2023 at 6:53 am

    No worries. You can try with a 1:4 dilution (one part of product in 4 parts of water). Mix and see if the solution becomes cloudy. Overtime, these cloudiness should turn into a precipitate at the bottom. You can do the same with a commercial shampoo, to see how much precipitate is formed upon dilution (the more the better).

    • mmarr

      Member
      August 3, 2023 at 7:39 pm

      i see, thanks a lot for the help 🙂

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