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  • Cold Process Emulsion

    Posted by em88 on July 12, 2017 at 11:38 am

    Hello

    I was reading about this process and was curios to know what is your experience in the cold process of preparing emulsions. Also if you can list some emulsifiers you have used would be great. 
    I tried a simple formula with sepineo p600. The process was incredibly fast, but it appears this excipient is very expensive. 

    Thank you

    em88 replied 7 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    July 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    I have not used Speineo P600 … looks interesting.

    I have used Sucrose Stearates (Sisterna), Hydresia Oleosomes (Botaneco), Sucragel (Alfa).  

    Hydresia Oleosomes need to be combined with another emulsifier (either Sucragel or Sucrose Stearates) … If used solo, you always get separation.

    The issue is the sensorial which not really a cream feel, but more like a serum. Also, the emulsions using these cold process emulsifiers are water-thin.

    All-in-all, my clients have liked the products developed using these emulsifiers.

  • em88

    Member
    July 13, 2017 at 6:41 am

    Nice detailed info! Thank you

  • ozgirl

    Member
    July 13, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    I have tried the Permulen polymeric emulisfiers (Lubrizol). These worked well and were reasonably easy to use. Unfortunately the product never made it to market due to other factors but the emulsifier was good.

  • belassi

    Member
    July 14, 2017 at 3:10 am

    @ozgirl, I have Pemulen TR1 and TR2 available in-country. Which would you recommend?

  • ozgirl

    Member
    July 14, 2017 at 3:30 am

    @Belassi - It depends on your application.

    I was working with TR-2 because I was trying to incorporate some botanical extracts and oils into a facial serum. TR-1has higher viscosity but was not recommended for ionic systems.

    https://www.lubrizol.com/en/Life-Sciences/Products/Pemulen-Polymeric-Emulsifiers

  • em88

    Member
    July 14, 2017 at 6:42 am

    I have samples for both of premulen types, but never used, Are those considered expesive emulsifiers?

  • crisbaysauli

    Member
    July 25, 2017 at 3:38 am

    I am very fond of Optasense RMAIS, Vicoptime SE and Viscoptima PL from Croda. Depending on your claims, any of these three is sufficient already, just add water, fragrance, actives and preservative.

  • em88

    Member
    July 26, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    These kind of premixes have so many advantages and the best thing I like is the way they form gels, very fast and with low stirring speed, in fact you don’t even need a stirrer, just manual stirring is enough. 

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