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    Posted by elainec on November 30, 2015 at 10:47 am

    Hi there
    I’ve started making my own natural cleaning products but not properly formulated as it does not foam or thicken,main ingredients are decyl glucoside and poly sorbate 20

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  • elainec

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    November 30, 2015 at 10:48 am

    any suggestions??

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    November 30, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    Decyl glucoside is not a great foamer, nor is it a good thickener. But - it is a myth that foaming is needed for cleaning, and also a myth that high foaming indicates a high strength cleanser.

    What kind of cleaning products are you trying to make, and why do they need to be thick?
  • elainec

    Member
    November 30, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    dishwashing liquid,washing detergent floor cleaner etc

    not too thick just a little so that its not runny like water
  • belassi

    Member
    November 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    There are far better surfactants to use than that, for household cleaners.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    November 30, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    Where have you looked for starting formulas so far?

  • Chemist77

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    November 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    check info from Huntsman, Akzo, Air Products, plenty to grab for a headstart.

  • elainec

    Member
    December 1, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    Which surfactants are better
    Looking on natural recipes Web sites

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    December 1, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    Sadly, all of the “natural” surfactants are pretty bad/ineffective. Since this is primarily a cosmetic site, there’s not much more we can tell you.

  • ozgirl

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    December 1, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    It is quite difficult to formulate “natural” cleaning products that have the same physical characteristics as traditional cleaning products (foaming, viscosity etc).

    First you need to define what you mean by natural? Are you looking for surfactants that are derived from plants and biodegradable? Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and Sodium Laureth Sulfate meet these criteria. What ingredients are you trying to avoid?

    If you are looking for good starting formulations I would avoid looking on “natural recipes” websites and start looking on surfactant manufacturers websites.

    Perhaps if you share your formula we can assist further.

  • elainec

    Member
    December 2, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    Dish washing detergent
    I’ve got 15 ml decyl glucoside
    15 ml Cocomidopropyl
    Washing soda
    Water
    Fragrance
    Any suggestions

  • belassi

    Member
    December 2, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    When formulating, you have to talk about ingredients as percentages otherwise it’s meaningless.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    December 7, 2015 at 6:20 am

    Goodness you have lots and lots of formulas available online for dish wash liquid so why woul dyou get so confused. As for natural I never go that way which is basically just a mirage. 

    I use SLES, APG, CAPB, Amine Oxide, Polymer, Salt and fragrance in my dish wash liquid and it works just fine. You can use LABSA as well depending on your cost and if you know how to properly neutralize it to get the sodium salt of it. Or else use NANSA HS/80. 
  • belassi

    Member
    December 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    With decyl glucoside, test for allergic reactions.

  • Anonymous

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    December 9, 2015 at 11:40 am

    anybody please give me exact formula for dishwashing liquid i try mixing SLES and sodium chloride diluted in hot water and add CDEA and Benzalkonium /scent and colorant but the result is opaque consistency what i what to achieve is transparent consistency what chem is missing? please help me thank you.   

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    December 9, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    @noelariel, is Google not working for you?

  • ozgirl

    Member
    December 9, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    @noelariel There are plenty of formulations that can be found by googling.

    Your main problem is that you are mixing anionic and cationic surfactants.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    December 10, 2015 at 4:10 am

    This is where Rules for requesting formulating advice/help come into play, I hope we all can respect that. 

  • ashish

    Member
    December 14, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Please contact to suppliers of surfactant to have a ready made blend of multiple surfactants especially designed for Dish washing. It may help to you.

  • RobertG

    Member
    December 21, 2015 at 4:29 am

    Elainec, you need to step back & explain what your object is.  What properties do you want your product to have in particular, especially those that would make it different from what most people would have on the shelf?  I gather you want to make something primarily for cleaning hard surfaces by hand.  Is that right?

    “Cocamidopropyl…” what?  Betaine?  Amine oxide?

    Why do you want washing soda in there?  Your thrust seems to be primarily toward making the product skin-friendly, but making it alkaline isn’t going to help.  Washing soda’s more like a thing someone would want in a dishwashing machine than in hand washing.  It might help a little in mopping the floor, but you’re not likely to make a single formula that’d be anywhere near optimal for both those purposes.

  • Anonymous

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    September 11, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    Cleaning products formula

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    September 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    Can anyone help me with formulation of floor cleaner with good fragrance in my entire room

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