Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating General Cheap homogenizers from China?

  • Abdullah

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    June 26, 2021 at 12:19 am

    That is not homogenizer. The least expensive lab homogenizer is around $500.

  • Graillotion

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    June 26, 2021 at 3:04 am

    What country do you live in?

  • Microformulation

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    June 26, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    That particular unit is horrible. I ended up with two of them (one still in the packaging) at a plant I helped liquidate. You should get an overhead mixer before you get a homogenizer. If your processes call for a homogenizer, look for something from IKA or Silverson. They hold up well and even a used one would perform radically better than that junk.

  • Sponge

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    June 26, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    Cheap Chinese homogenizes are know the be very shitty and highly unsafe. Many reports have been posted here about them overheating, breaking, flinging parts across the room etc. You get what you pay for in this case. 

  • DrJekyll

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    June 27, 2021 at 11:45 am

    Yeah? Is it that bad? Good thing I checked. I a had a slight suspicion, even expectation ;).Excuse me for my late reply btw

    I am Dutch… So European availability in is important to me. Sending stuff to the US  for repair is expensive.

    I am talking about purely hobby and in quantities purely for one or two person use. Just orienting actually. I don’t even know if I am going to need it. I am too early in this hobby(for me) to even know if I do! But toy’s do attract to me…

    I was actually under the assumtion that stirring generates air bubbles in créme? But that’s not the case I understand now? And are there overhead stirrers on the market that can be transformed (with an extension rotator) into a homogenizer?

  • helenhelen

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    June 27, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    Have you considered this option (OCIS homogeniser head on a Dremel)? It’s a great solution for your needs… although still quite expensive. It’s what I use for small, hobby/sample volumes. I have the smaller one and am able to homogenise 30ml with no aeration. Never had any problems and I’ve used it 300+ times.

  • DrJekyll

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    June 27, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    Verry nice tip Helen. That’s exactly what I would like to buy if I decide to do so! Definately still expensive, you are right. But the fact that it’s small and takes up no space….,   it’s a big pro for me… Sweet, big thanks!

  • Pattsi

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    June 27, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    Yes toy does attract me too. I was looking at this before but didn’t buy it.
    https://www.carlroth.com/com/en/units/agitators-rotilabo-speed/p/n372.1
    I diy mostly with overhead + different blades. 

  • DrJekyll

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    June 27, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    @Pattsi: Thanks… Could you explain when and why you use a overhead stirrer? (for what cosmetic products?) With what kind of blades? Do you use it instead of a homogenizer in cream making also?

  • Graillotion

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    June 27, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    Just get this and be done with it!  You’ll make amazing products:

    Dynamic MiniPro MX069.1 Blender/ Homogenizer, 6.5, 115V Dynamic Blenders - BakeDeco.Com

    I know this is a US website….but since it is French made….you can get it in the EU.  They even sell it under another name in the EU (can’t remember the brand name)….with the same attachment…and the attachment is KEY… the standard head will not create the same level of product as the homogenizer head.

    Everyone (in my circles) that has purchased this has felt that it took their products up several notches….(from common household stick blenders or cheap Chinese homogenizers.)

  • DrJekyll

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    June 28, 2021 at 11:07 am

    The dynamic Mini pro looks a bit big for my quantities/wishes. Thanks for posting anyways :). I am amazed how many, more affordable, options are out there. Space saving, more affordable, options… I think I like the OCIS homogeniser head on a Dremel very much. Probably the smaller version of it, of which Helen was talking about… Once I start saying things like this…, the buying usually already is inevitable ;)

  • Mic001

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    June 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm

    I have a Misceo which is from the same French company that make the Dynamix and it’s really good. We have a big one but you can get smaller cheaper ones. 

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