Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone

  • ngarayeva001

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    August 29, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    There might be different products under this INCI. I tried Abil EM 90 by Evonik. It’s not an easy-going one and needs some practice. It doesn’t like high oil phase, in fact I only managed to get it working with 22% in the oil phase. You would also need to pair it with another w/o emulsifier.

  • jemolian

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    August 31, 2020 at 12:27 am

    You will need to meet the requirements to stabilize it but i tested it with Sepinov EMT 10 since i don’t have the co-emulsifier that it’s normally paired with, it seems to be much draggier.  

  • ngarayeva001

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    August 31, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    I haven’t seen Sepinov EMT 10 in W/O products except for Seppic’s Gel Trap. Have you observed it for separation?

  • jemolian

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    September 1, 2020 at 12:19 am

    I did the combo since i saw the Geltrap idea but there’s no issues so far at room temperature with both Sepinov EMT 10 or Sepimax Zen. Though i’m really curious is it really performed as well as the Geltrap would do or if it’s even similar. 

  • ngarayeva001

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    September 1, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    By the way, I tried to make Seppic’s gel trap with Sepinov and it had separated in a month, but the same formula with Simulgel EG looked unchanged for over a year (until I discarded it because I have too many samples). I tried to experiment with PEG-30 DPHS (my logic was it’s part of Easynov) but it didn’t work. Don’t get discouraged if it separates. W/Os are tricky.

  • jemolian

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    September 2, 2020 at 1:12 am

    @ngarayeva001 any recommendations for (maybe low HLB) co-emulsifiers for the Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone? I don’t think i can source for the Polyglyceryl-4 Isostearate. Would something like Olivem 900 do?  

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