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    Posted by GeorgeBenson on December 26, 2022 at 3:16 am

    Can cetearyl alcohol be a foam inhibitor? I have been playing around with making creamy emulsions containing surfactants and cetearyl alcohol, just wondering if it could be having any impact on the foam like glyceryl stearate does?

    GeorgeBenson replied 1 year, 11 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • chemicalmatt

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    December 27, 2022 at 2:23 pm

    Affirmative. When used in o/w emulsions fatty alcohols will retard the foaming often seen. Cetyl alcohol works best for this.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    December 27, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    Ahhh ok thanks i will try switching it for cetyl instead

  • Graillotion

    Member
    December 27, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    As Matt mentioned…cetyl alcohol is one of many ‘fixes/helps/hacks’ for mitigating soaping.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    December 28, 2022 at 2:43 am

    In this came i am actually formulating a cleanser, and i dont have a soaping problem - i am just trying to maximize my foam from the surfactants. So will replacing cetearyl with cetyl help produce more foam? I think that is what matt is saying, but correct me if im wrong here please.

  • Graillotion

    Member
    December 28, 2022 at 3:04 am

    In this came i am actually formulating a cleanser, and i dont have a soaping problem - i am just trying to maximize my foam from the surfactants. So will replacing cetearyl with cetyl help produce more foam? I think that is what matt is saying, but correct me if im wrong here please.

    I think he is saying….Cetyl is best at (retard) reducing foam!  Hence it is used in emulsions….to reduce soaping.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    December 28, 2022 at 4:06 am

    Oh ok, i see. Thanks. It’s strange though because makingcosmetics claims their cetyl alcohol will IMPROVE foaming when used with surfactants.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    December 28, 2022 at 4:08 am

    But im having another look and they say the same thing about cetearyl as well! 

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    December 30, 2022 at 2:35 pm

    @GeorgeBenson, I misunderstood, assumed you meant retarding creaming in an o/w emulsion system as @Graillotion mentions. Fatty alcohols do little to improve foam in surfactant cleansing products. They only work to opacify these formulas, a job they do well. SO MANY other materials enhance foam (not, repeat NOT, glycerin or any other polyol). This thread could take many hours to read were I to list them all.

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    December 30, 2022 at 9:28 pm

     I would absolutely love to read about foam boosters for hours! (Seriously, i really would)

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