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    Posted by Anonymous on September 16, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Hi

    I’m making a facial oil with a combination of different organic and vegetable oils, just pure oils nothing else.. anyway I’ve been experimenting with different oils for different feels etc..  and I know that using caprylic/capric triglyceride can help with the spread and to take away the “greasy” feeling of facial oils but just wondering what would generally be the optimium percentage to use it at for it to be effective at this role.  I had a bottle of the formulated oil that I was just testing and using myself and added some caprylic/capric triglyceride in and it seemed to work but I just poured it in the bottle I was using and gave it a shake it was just for my own personal use so I have absolutely no idea what percentage that would equate to lol

    thanks

    chemist1 replied 10 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    September 16, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    Here’s the thing - actual cosmetic science is all about experimentation. Try different levels - you’ll learn more.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    September 16, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Also measure and keep track of the levels you use so you can reproduce your work.  You can also try to guess at the percentages that you used but weighing things out is better.

    It’s also helpful to know what else is in your formula.  But if you need a number….try 5% and go up or down from there.
  • Anonymous

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    September 17, 2014 at 3:25 am

    tks  guys yeah I know I just needed an idea of a figure to start !  :)  5% is what I had in mind but just had no clue whether that was completely off the wall…

  • belassi

    Member
    September 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    5% ? 

    One of my products is a face cream that has the following lipid profile:
    stearic acid 2%
    cetyl alc 1%
    shea butter 3%
    Myritol 318 4%  (caprylic/capric triglyceride)

    At this percentage, the cream is great for oily skin, it absorbs fast and leaves a powdery feel. However those with normal and, especially, dry skin, disliked the cream as they felt it “too dry” and wanted to use more of it. For normal/dry skin I replaced 2% of the Myritol 318 with almond oil and that worked fine for those skin types.
  • nasrins

    Member
    September 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    is caprylic/capric triglyceride good ingredient for shampoo too?

  • belassi

    Member
    September 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    In shampoo? I haven’t tried it, but I wouldn’t think so. It will probably depress the foam and possibly cause separation. It is mainly used for creams that require a ‘powdery’ finish.

  • nasrins

    Member
    September 25, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I see in some shampoo brands, but I dont know is just a claim or really add it.

  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    October 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Nasrins - some blends like miracare slb 365, iselux SLC, Tego sulfosuccinate DO 75 can hold significant amounts of oil.

  • belassi

    Member
    October 4, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    If you want refatting capability from shampoo, Lamesoft PO-65 is the way to go. Adds foam, adds viscosity, not expensive.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 4, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    But isn’t it really contradictory that you are trying to wash off and at the same time trying to put some oil back (re-fatting for the sake of it). And if there is surfactant and if there is oil, why would the surfactant allow that oil to stay on the skin???? Does it mean the surfactant is under-performing???????

    Excuse me but empty mind and devil’s abode (3 days break and so these weird things going on in my mind) 
  • belassi

    Member
    October 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Check out the literature for Lamesoft and you’ll see how it works. Regarding putting oil in shampoo, I tend to agree, the only one I would consider would be jojoba oil and even then in very small %. 

  • nasrins

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 4:00 am

    @makingskincare what do u mean hold significant amounts of oil?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 4:37 am

    Meaning it can support the presence of significant amounts of oil in the formula. Think that should give the pointer.

    Cheers

  • nasrins

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 6:16 am

    so u have significant amount of oil in ur shampoo with good foaming, detergency and good stability.

  • Chemist77

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 6:35 am

    I ONLY interpreted that sentence, don’t take it as my opinion or suggestion.

  • Microformulation

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 6:42 am

    If you read the Tech Sheets and documentation from Rhodia, they have several surfactant bases that will incorporate significant oils. However in my experience and from the feedback on the prototypes I have produced with these bases, you don’t need or want these levels of oils. The end result is oily and the rinse off is problematic. http://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1039244.pdf?bs=747&b=67103&st=20

  • chemist1

    Member
    October 8, 2014 at 6:57 am

    Try the Iselux SLC surfactant blend from Innospec if you are looking to incorporate natural oils, butters, silicones or petrolatum.  It is a good fit for a moisturizing body wash or facial wash. 

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