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  • Brinkmann Polytron homogenizer with Igepal CO-530

    Posted by bahey on March 7, 2019 at 4:51 am

    Emulsions of silicone oil-in water were formed using a Brinkmann Polytron homogenizer with Igepal CO-530 as an emulsifier.
    any one heard about this way or there is anther way to disperse silicone oil in water to be added to sulphate free shampoo which used by expensive shampoo brands ?

    Microformulation replied 5 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • belassi

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 5:34 am

    It would result in a foam-free shampoo. Is that what you’re aiming for?

  • Microformulation

    Member
    March 7, 2019 at 1:28 pm
    Not my favorite emulsifier, Igepal CO-530. More common in Industrial uses.
    What they are describing is a micro emulsion using a surfactant. Sonimech is pushing this technology to my CBD clients. It would be unusually expensive and unnecessary in this case.
    I would suggest that you do a short course/review on silicones. Tony O’Lenick (Siltech) has several online. Silicones are a large group encompassing materials with varied different molecular structures (linear, cyclic, etc.) We tend to over simplify the class. I believe in this case you will find that there are more appropriate silicones of other sub-classes.
    Dimethicone will definitely kill your foam. Before you proceed, remember that the consumer has certain expectations in a shampoo, one being foam, This product would likely miss this benchmark.
  • bahey

    Member
    March 17, 2019 at 8:38 am

    Belassi said:

    It would result in a foam-free shampoo. Is that what you’re aiming for?

    Some factory send me a sample which was very expensive because of adding silicon oil . 
    It  produces  foam ( not much ) but it has avery good texture on hand and hair

  • bahey

    Member
    March 17, 2019 at 8:42 am

    Not my favorite emulsifier, Igepal CO-530. More common in Industrial uses.
    What they are describing is a micro emulsion using a surfactant. Sonimech is pushing this technology to my CBD clients. It would be unusually expensive and unnecessary in this case.
    I would suggest that you do a short course/review on silicones. Tony O’Lenick (Siltech) has several online. Silicones are a large group encompassing materials with varied different molecular structures (linear, cyclic, etc.) We tend to over simplify the class. I believe in this case you will find that there are more appropriate silicones of other sub-classes.
    Dimethicone will definitely kill your foam. Before you proceed, remember that the consumer has certain expectations in a shampoo, one being foam, This product would likely miss this benchmark.

    Thanks micro ? 
    what is alternative for Igepal ?

  • Microformulation

    Member
    March 17, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    If you look at the Commercial systems they use Food grade Polysorbate and Lecithin. If you want guidance, search ultrasonic homogenizer CBD. They are big in the mainstream CBD markets and there are numerous pdf’s describing the emulsifiers and the systems.  https://www.hielscher.com/ultrasonic-cannabis-oil-emulsion.htm

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