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  • BHT/Benzo-4 performance

    Posted by rina on September 6, 2022 at 9:40 am

    Hello everyone,

    I was wondering if anyone could help me with what is the best way to incorporate BHT and benzophenone-4 in a formula to protect color and fragrance from UV light, more specifically in shower gels and in Perfumes. I have tried a few UV stabilizers like benzophenone-4 @ 0.1% and 0.2% (based on info i found on this forum and on the internet) and BHT @ 0.2% but the color is changing and the fragrance is going bad anyway. In perfumes, I am solubilizing them in alcohol or fragrance oil then adding alcohol, water and water soluble ingredients. I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out why isn’t it working for me because from what I have read they’re supposed to be super efficient. Am I not putting enough of them? Is it my process?

    The formula for my fragrances is: alcohol 60-70%
    fragrance 1.5 to 2%
    solubilizer 1% 
    BHT or benzophenone-4 0.2%
    water qs

    For the shower gel: water qs
    sodium benzoate 0.5%
    EDTA 0.1%
    SLES (70% ) 13%
    CAPB (30%) 3%
    glycerin 3%
    fragrance oil 1%
    BHT or benzophenone-4 0.2%
    colorants, citric acid, sodium chloride

    Thank you in advance for your help I would really appreciate it.
    Rina

    Vignesh_95 replied 2 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • ketchito

    Member
    September 6, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @rina Do you see the color and fragrance change under stability conditions (high T, UV light) or at room conditions? During stability, especially if the T is high, it’s normal to have some fragrance and color change. The amounts of BHT and/or BP-4 are OK, so, if the change is significant, there might be something else going on (pH drift in the case of your shower gel, water quality, heavy metal presence in some extract, ease of oxidation of your fragrance). You could try using Tinogard TL in your shower gel and Tinogard TT in your fragrance.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    September 6, 2022 at 12:48 pm

    You certainly need more than Na benzoate for preservation.

  • rina

    Member
    October 7, 2022 at 10:42 am

    Hello,

    Sorry for the delay. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
    @ketchito I notice the changes when exposed to UV light, but the changes are drastic. I don’t notice them at 40°C though (maybe a slight change in color and a weaker smell but that’s it). I would like to improve the stability under UV light because the products are sold in a very sunny place and the products are most of the time exposed to light. Maybe it’s the water quality… I will try with the Tinogard, thanks for your help!

    @PhilGeis thanks for the information, I have seen a lot of formulas using Na benzoate in shower gels. I also tried with phenoxyethanol

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    October 7, 2022 at 10:53 am

    Try them together.

  • Vignesh_95

    Member
    October 7, 2022 at 11:50 am

    rina said:

    Hello everyone,

    I was wondering if anyone could help me with what is the best way to incorporate BHT and benzophenone-4 in a formula to protect color and fragrance from UV light, more specifically in shower gels and in Perfumes. I have tried a few UV stabilizers like benzophenone-4 @ 0.1% and 0.2% (based on info i found on this forum and on the internet) and BHT @ 0.2% but the color is changing and the fragrance is going bad anyway. In perfumes, I am solubilizing them in alcohol or fragrance oil then adding alcohol, water and water soluble ingredients. I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out why isn’t it working for me because from what I have read they’re supposed to be super efficient. Am I not putting enough of them? Is it my process?

    The formula for my fragrances is: alcohol 60-70%
    fragrance 1.5 to 2%
    solubilizer 1% 
    BHT or benzophenone-4 0.2%
    water qs

    For the shower gel: water qs
    sodium benzoate 0.5%
    EDTA 0.1%
    SLES (70% ) 13%
    CAPB (30%) 3%
    glycerin 3%
    fragrance oil 1%
    BHT or benzophenone-4 0.2%
    colorants, citric acid, sodium chloride

    Thank you in advance for your help I would really appreciate it.
    Rina

    Hi Rina, 
               For your Transparent Clear System UV Stabilization, You Need a Strong Anti Oxidant and UV Stabilizer, BHT Will Self Consumed in a Period of time and it Changes the Product Color to
     Yellow, The Above reaction is the Degradation of BHT, 
    Better You Can Use Sodium Benzotriazolyl Butylphenol Sulfonate (and) Buteth-3 (and) Tributyl Citrate aka Cibafast H Liquid Which will do the Job.
    Also Change The Preservatives.

    I am New to this Industry, Hope the Post will be Helpful.

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