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    Posted by abierose on March 17, 2021 at 12:45 am

    I’m trying to find a new online resource for fragrance oils, natural or synthetic, specifically for making lotions and hair products. There are so many choices and so far I have really only been happy with a couple fragrances from one or two vendors. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

    redcoast replied 2 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 26 Replies
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  • graillotion

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    March 17, 2021 at 2:32 am

    Hahaha…. I have 80 fragrances…from maybe 10 vendors.

    There is no one company better than another as far as finding something you like…that is all just personal opinion.

    I was thinking about selling them off on e-bay….in lots of 10….grab bag style…hehehe.

    Ohh…and of those 80…I have one that I like, and maybe 2-3 that won’t kill me.  :) 

    And of course in this industry…there are many re-packers…selling the same thing with different names. :( 

  • abierose

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    March 17, 2021 at 6:17 am

    Hahaha…. I have 80 fragrances…from maybe 10 vendors.

    There is no one company better than another as far as finding something you like…that is all just personal opinion.

    I was thinking about selling them off on e-bay….in lots of 10….grab bag style…hehehe.

    Ohh…and of those 80…I have one that I like, and maybe 2-3 that won’t kill me.  :) 

    And of course in this industry…there are many re-packers…selling the same thing with different names. :( 

    Oh goodness!! Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one!  I have a bunch of fragrance oils that I will probably never use because out of all of them, I really only like 2 or 3 of them! Damn, ok, was hoping you would have a special fragrance supplier that you love and could direct me to but I guess my search will continue. One lesson I have learned is that I shouldn’t buy more than 1 or 2 small or sample sized fragrance oils from any one vendor, hehe 😜

  • graillotion

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    March 17, 2021 at 7:28 pm

    abierose said:

    Oh goodness!! Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one!  I have a bunch of fragrance oils that I will probably never use because out of all of them, I really only like 2 or 3 of them! Damn, ok, was hoping you would have a special fragrance supplier that you love and could direct me to but I guess my search will continue. One lesson I have learned is that I shouldn’t buy more than 1 or 2 small or sample sized fragrance oils from any one vendor, hehe 😜

    Yes…I have found the reviews posted on the vendor sites….are absolutely worthless….people will rave about things…that absolutely stink!

    Hehehe….maybe as picky people we would have the same fav’s?

    We should compare notes.

  • abierose

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    March 17, 2021 at 8:22 pm

    abierose said:

    Oh goodness!! Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one!  I have a bunch of fragrance oils that I will probably never use because out of all of them, I really only like 2 or 3 of them! Damn, ok, was hoping you would have a special fragrance supplier that you love and could direct me to but I guess my search will continue. One lesson I have learned is that I shouldn’t buy more than 1 or 2 small or sample sized fragrance oils from any one vendor, hehe 😜

    Yes…I have found the reviews posted on the vendor sites….are absolutely worthless….people will rave about things…that absolutely stink!

    Hehehe….maybe as picky people we would have the same fav’s?

    We should compare notes.

    Yes!! Let’s!!

  • 1Armand2

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    March 18, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    i buy mine from Aesop

  • Kanuck

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    April 15, 2021 at 11:44 am

    Same issue, I buy from around 6 vendors in Canada and the US. Sooo many variations on the same scent that it comes down to personal preference. I have around 50 fragrance samples sitting here in my closet and only have 4 or 5 useable for my application that don’t smell terrible (imo). 

    Absolutely don’t bother with reviews. They’re all bs and think they’re reviewing wine or something. Most reviews don’t even give you a sense on what it smells like, just rambling of its good/bad. Pretty much useless.

    The search for new fragrances is always on so I buy small samples. Samples is the key, buy lots buy often and you’ll find a supplier with ‘most’ of the fragrances you’re looking for.

  • redcoast

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    April 17, 2021 at 5:27 pm
    Problem is, most fragrance oils smell “perfumey” and too much like air freshener to me. There’s only some I like.
    I stay away from florals and aquatic notes in general-they’re the worst offenders.
    Wine/alcohol/bourbon notes are hit-or-miss.
    Interestingly, woods blended with apple notes aren’t too bad.
    Peppery notes, in my opinion, smell the least perfumey and the ones I like the most.
    Are you okay with using tiny amounts of essential oils? In my opinion, they aren’t perfumey. Problem is they’re pricey and some of them have odd or unpleasant top notes.
  • abierose

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    April 18, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    RedCoast said:

    Problem is, most fragrance oils smell “perfumey” and too much like air freshener to me. There’s only some I like.
    I stay away from florals and aquatic notes in general-they’re the worst offenders.
    Wine/alcohol/bourbon notes are hit-or-miss.
    Interestingly, woods blended with apple notes aren’t too bad.
    Peppery notes, in my opinion, smell the least perfumey and the ones I like the most.
    Are you okay with using tiny amounts of essential oils? In my opinion, they aren’t perfumey. Problem is they’re pricey and some of them have odd or unpleasant top notes.

    Oh my gosh, totally agree about most scents being too perfumey and you’re dead on about the floral and aquatic tones being the top offenders! I prefer the peppery notes as well. 

    I am okay with using some small amounts of essential oils…but I’ve only found a handful of then that I like…I tend to like the citrus and peppery essential oils…the problem with essential oils is that the scent often leaves the product after a short time 🤷‍♀️

    Thanks for your input!! Sounds like we like similar scents. @Graillotion also has similar preferences and is a wealth of information!!

    Thanks again!

  • redcoast

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    April 19, 2021 at 6:49 am
    Black pepper and clove essential oils are my favorite! I can’t turn down a good orange and clove fragrance, either! I like the contrast between bergamot and black pepper, though if you throw a little basil in there I can’t help but become drawn to it like a bee to beebalm!
    Yeah, it’s too bad that black pepper and clove are middle to top notes… it’s really hard to make them last as long as I’d like :s . It’s difficult to pick a fixative that doesn’t overwhelm the peppery notes.
    Benzoin is a good fixative in general, but it can be too sweet and vanilla-y. Ylang Ylang III is excellent, but it can be on the pricey side. I haven’t tried the other distillations of Ylang Ylang yet, but I heard they can make interesting compositions.
    I’m currently experimenting with juniper with pepper, and I like the results so far… but it doesn’t last as long as I’d like it, either.
    Have you tried the “100% natural” fragrance oils from wholesalesuppliesplus.com yet? Those are surprisingly good, and they’ve given me ideas for my own creations. The ones I tried so far don’t have that airy, perfumey note that’s present in too many other “normal” fragrance oils. Unfortunately, they ARE pricey, and they won’t last in soap!
    Are you familiar with Fragrantica? They have an ingredients search bar, which has become indispensable for my fragrance research.
    I’m very glad I joined this site when I did. I could kick myself for not discovering this place sooner!
    Paging @Graillotion! Have you had any awesome fragrance adventures, lately? Especially with pepper? ;)
  • abierose

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    April 19, 2021 at 7:00 am

    RedCoast said:

    Black pepper and clove essential oils are my favorite! I can’t turn down a good orange and clove fragrance, either! I like the contrast between bergamot and black pepper, though if you throw a little basil in there I can’t help but become drawn to it like a bee to beebalm!
    Yeah, it’s too bad that black pepper and clove are middle to top notes… it’s really hard to make them last as long as I’d like :s . It’s difficult to pick a fixative that doesn’t overwhelm the peppery notes.
    Benzoin is a good fixative in general, but it can be too sweet and vanilla-y. Ylang Ylang III is excellent, but it can be on the pricey side. I haven’t tried the other distillations of Ylang Ylang yet, but I heard they can make interesting compositions.
    I’m currently experimenting with juniper with pepper, and I like the results so far… but it doesn’t last as long as I’d like it, either.
    Have you tried the “100% natural” fragrance oils from wholesalesuppliesplus.com yet? Those are surprisingly good, and they’ve given me ideas for my own creations. The ones I tried so far don’t have that airy, perfumey note that’s present in too many other “normal” fragrance oils. Unfortunately, they ARE pricey, and they won’t last in soap!
    Are you familiar with Fragrantica? They have an ingredients search bar, which has become indispensable for my fragrance research.
    I’m very glad I joined this site when I did. I could kick myself for not discovering this place sooner!
    Paging @Graillotion! Have you had any awesome fragrance adventures, lately? Especially with pepper? ;)

    Yessss!!! Oh my gosh, I LOVE my black pepper essential oil! I have used it with Bergamot, black spruce and cypress…so amazing!

    I haven’t tried the natural fragrance oils from wholesale supplies plus but I have gotten a few from essential wholesale supply that are awesome…specifically their Passionfruit and Papaya oils ;) 

    And I’ve said the same thing multiple times…I wish I would have discovered this forum long before I did…the information and knowledge I’ve gained, and continue to learn from, is priceless. And everyone is very kind and honest and intelligent too!! I 😁

  • redcoast

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    April 19, 2021 at 7:47 am

    abierose said:

    Yessss!!! Oh my gosh, I LOVE my black pepper essential oil! I have used it with Bergamot, black spruce and cypress…so amazing!

    I haven’t tried the natural fragrance oils from wholesale supplies plus but I have gotten a few from essential wholesale supply that are awesome…specifically their Passionfruit and Papaya oils ;) 

    And I’ve said the same thing multiple times…I wish I would have discovered this forum long before I did…the information and knowledge I’ve gained, and continue to learn from, is priceless. And everyone is very kind and honest and intelligent too!! I 😁

    I was shocked how good the woody essential oils were! The fruity/jam notes in the cypress and spruce added more body and depth than I thought they would! Sometimes, you get those very sharp notes in there, though.  :D
    Have you tried hinoki wood, yet? A very unusual wood… you almost don’t want to blend it with anything. It’s a bit spicy, too. I’m not sure why it’s not more popular in Europe and the USA yet. Maybe because it doesn’t last long enough? :p
    Gosh, this place is a gold mine! (Platinum mine, maybe?) I only wish the search function was better! It’s difficult to dig up the older threads… the redirects to the landing page makes things difficult. Searching through the Wayback Machine hasn’t been fruitful so far. :s
  • graillotion

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    April 19, 2021 at 8:01 am

    RedCoast said:

    Black pepper and clove essential oils are my favorite! I can’t turn down a good orange and clove fragrance, It’s difficult to pick a fixative that doesn’t overwhelm the peppery notes.
    Benzoin is a good fixative in general, but it can be too sweet and vanilla-y. Ylang Ylang III is excellent, but it can be on the pricey side. I haven’t tried the other distillations of Ylang Ylang yet, but I heard they can make interesting compositions.
    I’m currently experimenting with juniper with pepper, and I like the results so far…

    I have about killed myself trying to make an EO combination I love.  I have created tons of tolerable ones….but tolerable is always unacceptable to me.  Funny thing is….my crown jewel is a natural mosquito lotion.  It is a 13 EO blend that is just jammed full of Vanillin.  Of course EO’s have an effective life of 17-18 minutes for repelling mosquitos….so fixatives are the quintessential component.  I have found the typical fragrance fixatives all but worthless for fixing EO’s… So I have come up with a crazy cocktail of fixers….that ultimately give me several hours of protection….and as mentioned before…with the crazy load of vanillin in there….smelling like sugar cookies.   Can’t give away all my secrets….but some places to look would be….triethyl citrate…. maybe use C12 C15 alkyl benzoate as your emollient of choice….and give a look at Floratech’s hydrolyzed jojoba esters as possible helps.  My system is far more elaborate than that…but those are the cards I am willing to show.

    My latest venture is a natural pain cream… I work with the finest mind in this field, and have ended up with something that has a scent mix (some of which is used to create a bit of a placebo effect) with wintergreen, mint, and clove…surprisingly not too bad.  One of the key scented constituents is paeonol, which has an uncanny ability to dominate the overall scent of the formula, even though by itself, you hardly notice the smell, but even including it at less than 1% in formula….wants to dominate with it’s minty smell.

    The aforementioned products were produced only with function in mind, and the scent was a result of combining the functionals.  As far as scenting something like a facial moisturizer…I have not found the magic bullet yet, so I ended up using rose absolute with frankincense oleoresin, and phenethyl alcohol.  Quite tolerable to the masses, even those that dislike artificial rose scent.  Somehow….the frankincense adds just enough of a spice…to confuse, and lull the senses. BTW…I have found frankincense EO…to have No value at all, for any purpose, functional or scenting.  The mentor makes me produce a growing number of the ingredients I use.

    I have not yet given up (on creating a dreamy EO fragrance)….I rarely give up…but sometimes take sabbaticals.  I have all the mentioned EO’s…with the exception of pepper…and you have me intrigued…and will be ordering some soon!  I have also been working at creating ginger extract with the help of my mentor, as part of the multi pronged pain cream,…and will be intrigued on experimenting with that….as one of my favorite commercial fragrance oils….uses ginger as part of the scent profile.

    I have always been intrigued with the citrus EO’s…and now that I am finally working on a NIGHT cream… might have an opportunity to include them in the scent profile.  Still trying to get the barrier function where my Swiss mastermind thinks it should be. :) 

  • redcoast

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    April 19, 2021 at 8:30 pm

    RedCoast said:

    Black pepper and clove essential oils are my favorite! I can’t turn down a good orange and clove fragrance, It’s difficult to pick a fixative that doesn’t overwhelm the peppery notes.
    Benzoin is a good fixative in general, but it can be too sweet and vanilla-y. Ylang Ylang III is excellent, but it can be on the pricey side. I haven’t tried the other distillations of Ylang Ylang yet, but I heard they can make interesting compositions.
    I’m currently experimenting with juniper with pepper, and I like the results so far…

    I have about killed myself trying to make an EO combination I love.  I have created tons of tolerable ones….but tolerable is always unacceptable to me.  Funny thing is….my crown jewel is a natural mosquito lotion.  It is a 13 EO blend that is just jammed full of Vanillin.  Of course EO’s have an effective life of 17-18 minutes for repelling mosquitos….so fixatives are the quintessential component.  I have found the typical fragrance fixatives all but worthless for fixing EO’s… So I have come up with a crazy cocktail of fixers….that ultimately give me several hours of protection….and as mentioned before…with the crazy load of vanillin in there….smelling like sugar cookies.   Can’t give away all my secrets….but some places to look would be….triethyl citrate…. maybe use C12 C15 alkyl benzoate as your emollient of choice….and give a look at Floratech’s hydrolyzed jojoba esters as possible helps.  My system is far more elaborate than that…but those are the cards I am willing to show.

    My latest venture is a natural pain cream… I work with the finest mind in this field, and have ended up with something that has a scent mix (some of which is used to create a bit of a placebo effect) with wintergreen, mint, and clove…surprisingly not too bad.  One of the key scented constituents is paeonol, which has an uncanny ability to dominate the overall scent of the formula, even though by itself, you hardly notice the smell, but even including it at less than 1% in formula….wants to dominate with it’s minty smell.

    The aforementioned products were produced only with function in mind, and the scent was a result of combining the functionals.  As far as scenting something like a facial moisturizer…I have not found the magic bullet yet, so I ended up using rose absolute with frankincense oleoresin, and phenethyl alcohol.  Quite tolerable to the masses, even those that dislike artificial rose scent.  Somehow….the frankincense adds just enough of a spice…to confuse, and lull the senses. BTW…I have found frankincense EO…to have No value at all, for any purpose, functional or scenting.  The mentor makes me produce a growing number of the ingredients I use.

    I have not yet given up (on creating a dreamy EO fragrance)….I rarely give up…but sometimes take sabbaticals.  I have all the mentioned EO’s…with the exception of pepper…and you have me intrigued…and will be ordering some soon!  I have also been working at creating ginger extract with the help of my mentor, as part of the multi pronged pain cream,…and will be intrigued on experimenting with that….as one of my favorite commercial fragrance oils….uses ginger as part of the scent profile.

    I have always been intrigued with the citrus EO’s…and now that I am finally working on a NIGHT cream… might have an opportunity to include them in the scent profile.  Still trying to get the barrier function where my Swiss mastermind thinks it should be. :) 

    I primarily work with perfume oils and candles, because that’s where you get the most body with the FOs and EOs. Alcohol-based perfumes and lotions are very tricky, and I don’t like to lose the subtlety and complexity with my EOs, but I’m still experimenting.
    I agree with the mint! Everything in the minty family likes to dominate the composition. Davana and galbanum are almost as bad, though.
    Yes, you are correct with the frankincense oleoresin + phenethyl alcohol combination! This is why Moroccan Rose EO is tolerable and even popular with those who don’t like the typical rose scents-it’s all because of the spicy undertone!
    Ylang Ylang III is an excellent fixative for multiple reasons. Yes, the resins like labdanum are better for the fixative part, but Ylang Ylang III really shines because it blends with black pepper perfectly, and you can make other interesting, luxurious effects with other (cheaper) EOs! There’s a lot of flexibility in creating a scent profile… you could play up the woodiness… or you can enhance the spice… or you can highlight the floral notes! Ylang Ylang is the best way to make an oriental composition, and yes, it goes well with ginger… I think you need to give it a shot!
    I’ve sniffed Ylang Ylang Complete before, and I don’t have this on hand yet for experimental purposes… but WOW, that was an intense floral! My local EO seller told me that it’s very popular with women… maybe that will be the secret to your night cream? ;)
    If you really want to try Ylang Ylang, get a sampler pack with all the grades! I wish I did earlier, even though I wasn’t interested in the other sweeter and more floral grades at the time… I will get a sample pack of Ylang after I complete my lavender experiments. :)
    Oh, and if you’re looking for citrus… get bergamot first. Make sure it’s bergapten/furocoumarin-free. Really, you can’t go wrong with bergamot… it’s bright, fresh, and not sharp like other citruses. Besides, it’s awesome with black pepper, and goes very well with other spices like clove and ginger!
    Oooh, a night cream! That’s one of my current projects, too! I’m making one for my mother, who also has oily skin despite her age… it’s genetics, and I’m cursed with it, too. :s She’s a tough one to formulate for… but she’s happy to take my experiments! :D
  • abierose

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    April 20, 2021 at 12:18 am

    @RedCoast black pepper + Bergamot + grapefruit + teensy tiny amount of Vetiver = a very lovely scent for men or women 😋 

    @Graillotion omg, you seriously need to check out black pepper!! Who knew something like black pepper could have such depth and sweetness?! It is really amazing though 😉 BTW, that basil and neoroli you sent me is pretty awesome smelling too and I think might try using it in a balm I make 😀

  • graillotion

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    April 20, 2021 at 7:08 am

    So ….anyone can chime in.  A natural fragrance for a night cream????

    Something too sweet or too refreshing does not set the table well for sleep.  I have never been a huge fan of lavender… Can a relaxing scent be created with the components being discussed?  Would love to hear thoughts on this.  Something that is not too floral…with a twist of unisex, and a splash of universality….hehehehe.

  • redcoast

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    April 20, 2021 at 7:52 am

    So ….anyone can chime in.  A natural fragrance for a night cream????

    Something too sweet or too refreshing does not set the table well for sleep.  I have never been a huge fan of lavender… Can a relaxing scent be created with the components being discussed?  Would love to hear thoughts on this.  Something that is not too floral…with a twist of unisex, and a splash of universality….hehehehe.

    Ylang ylang has actually been used (in small amounts) for sleeping/relaxation/insomnia essential oil blends. Ylang ylang III does it, especially if you have a generally balanced composition. You could probably get away with a slightly woodier undertone, especially if you blend it with bergamot. But I think Ylang Ylang II could be interesting to experiment with for a night cream…
    I see bergamot in “essential oils for sleep” blends all the time, with varying % of it. I’ve made perfume oils and candles with it, and everyone agrees bergamot is relaxing. Blending it with a “hot” scent like black pepper wouldn’t be good for sleep-the contrast is too intriguing and stimulating, at least to my nose.
    I see frankincense with the sleep/relaxation blends, but I tried it and didn’t like it… it was too musky. Maybe some other variants would work better, but I don’t know which ones.
    How about trying it with clary sage? It has that “calming” camphoraceous note like lavender, but it’s not as intense and it’s definitely fresher/greener. It can have a topnote that can smell sharp to some people. Some people like that sharpness, but not everyone… I think it’s more calming for gardeners and people who love the outdoors.
    Or maybe even blue chamomile. That one is surprisingly good and is on the “milder” side. It has a slight green apple note to me.
    If you’re looking for universiality… I think ylang ylang and bergamot would be it. Clary sage can work, too, if you can minimize the potential sharpness.
  • graillotion

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    April 20, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    RedCoast said:

    So ….anyone can chime in.  A natural fragrance for a night cream????

    Something too sweet or too refreshing does not set the table well for sleep.  I have never been a huge fan of lavender… Can a relaxing scent be created with the components being discussed?  Would love to hear thoughts on this.  Something that is not too floral…with a twist of unisex, and a splash of universality….hehehehe.

    How about trying it with clary sage? It has that “calming” camphoraceous note like lavender, but it’s not as intense and it’s definitely fresher/greener. It can have a topnote that can smell sharp to some people. Some people like that sharpness, but not everyone… I think it’s more calming for gardeners and people who love the outdoors.
    Or maybe even blue chamomile. That one is surprisingly good and is on the “milder” side. It has a slight green apple note to me.
    If you’re looking for universiality… I think ylang ylang and bergamot would be it. Clary sage can work, too, if you can minimize the potential sharpness.

    Thank you.

    I will order the berg and YY 3 today (and pepper).

    Hey….I have a propensity towards the fir/juniper/piney scents….any thoughts about adding some of these…and not pushing away one of the sexes?  And what have you found to be the best smelling in that group?  I use NDA for all my EO purchases.  And when considering these scents…I don’t mean with the aforementioned EO’s…but possibly starting with a clean slate.  I have a commercial fragrance…that was my #1 seller (lotion) pre-Covid, in the lsland giftshops….it was balsam fir with a hint citrus.  Those sales were primarily to Japanese and Korean clients.

    Pine is popular in Korea, so in that market, I think it would be well accepted (as part of a scent package).

  • redcoast

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    April 21, 2021 at 1:57 am
    Oooh, you will have fun with ylang ylang and black pepper. So many possibilities!
    I use Eden Botanicals for most of my EO purchases, with a few from Wholesalesuppliesplus. Are these suppliers cost-effective where you live?
    Oooh, yes! I love juniper and pine scents! I like them just as much as the spicy/oriental ones! I’ve found that people who have lived in or near the Rocky Mountains adore those scents, too-it reminds them of home!
    If you’re stuck with NDA… try cedarwood EO (Texas and Virginia are my favorites) + juniper + a hint of rosemary. I think you should get spruce EO if you can… out of the pines, I like spruce the most. It’s fresher, slightly balsamic, and doesn’t have that turpentine note. It’s more universally appealing, and you can blend it with black pepper! I like balsam fir, too, but some customers think it’s too balsamic.
    Have you tried hinoki yet? That one is interesting, but it’s harder to blend. It’s popular with the Japanese, but I’ve found people in Southwest USA tend to buy it first, even if they’ve never smelled it before.
    Have you tried palo santo? I love that one, too-it’s surprisingly versatile. It blends well with spruce and juniper and… black pepper. (Noticing a theme, here? ;) )However, some customers (particularly those who dislike “incense” scents) may think it’s too harsh/intense/woody. Try using that in trace amounts and go from there.
    @abierose, I totally agree. You can’t go wrong with a smoky vetiver… though I like using bergamot and yuzu more than grapefruit…but you can’t dismiss a more “simple” citrus if it works!
  • abierose

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    April 21, 2021 at 6:26 am

    @RedCoast yes, Bergamot is definitely one of my preferred citrus smells, along with Neiroli, but yes I do still love the simple smells of grapefruit and sweet orange and lemon! I also like Soeuce a lot..black spruce is the one I’m familiar with…

    @Graillotion I am also trying to find the best way to naturally scent face products, specifically a lotion. The hydrosols were a go-to for a minute but the scent doesn’t last and they can be potentially irritating, so I don’t use them anymore.

    As far as scents that are, or could be, pleasing to all sexes, there are only a few that I like…these include sweet orange, lemongrass, vanilla, pear, and coconut…all of which I would only use individually and in very small amounts in a face lotion…I am also NOT a fan of Lavender…or Rosemary…or Frankincense 😆 I do like Sandalwood and Cedarwood in very small amounts but they are pretty masculine and not for everyone, nor a good choice for a night cream…

    I like the idea of using just coconut oil to scent lotions..or different carrier oils that are said to have a pleasant smell to them, like Plum oil for example..
    🤷‍♀️. 

  • abierose

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    April 21, 2021 at 8:03 am

    Oh, and ginger is good too! But like pear, I haven’t found a good EO or FO of either. I would again recommend Essential Wholesale’s Passionfruit natural fragrance oil…it is truly nice. I recently purchased a few trial scents from Brambleberry and surprisingly I actually liked 3 out of the 4 I got!! 

  • redcoast

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    April 21, 2021 at 10:11 pm
    @abierose 100% grapefruit EO smells too sharp and bitter to me, but I do like it in combination with other citruses! Bergamot and yuzu, to me, are more complex and balanced.
    I also enjoy pear, but 99.9% of the pear FOs are too perfumey! I’d like to see a close replication of a ripe bosc pear… seriously, have you smelled a fresh sliced one? I couldn’t believe how delicious and complex it was!
    Rosemary EO really shines in trace amounts, particularly for “forest” and oriental blends. But yeah, dominant rosemary perfumes are just too strong for me. Gardeners and Italians like it strong, though!
    Supposedly, frankincense sourced from Oman is supposed to be the best and least musky/musty/earthy and heavy, but I haven’t tried it out yet. I’m okay with frankincense, especially in trace amounts, if the unpleasant musty and heavy undertones aren’t there.
    Brambleberry has been on my “to buy” list for a while, and I may just purchase some of their woody ones soon. Their tea FOs look interesting!
    You can’t go wrong with ginger, either, especially in trace amounts. Also, Neroli and ginger also go well together. ;) I like ginger with cypress, too!
  • abierose

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    April 21, 2021 at 10:33 pm

    RedCoast said:

    @abierose 100% grapefruit EO smells too sharp and bitter to me, but I do like it in combination with other citruses! Bergamot and yuzu, to me, are more complex and balanced.
    I also enjoy pear, but 99.9% of the pear FOs are too perfumey! I’d like to see a close replication of a ripe bosc pear… seriously, have you smelled a fresh sliced one? I couldn’t believe how delicious and complex it was!
    Rosemary EO really shines in trace amounts, particularly for “forest” and oriental blends. But yeah, dominant rosemary perfumes are just too strong for me. Gardeners and Italians like it strong, though!
    Supposedly, frankincense sourced from Oman is supposed to be the best and least musky/musty/earthy and heavy, but I haven’t tried it out yet. I’m okay with frankincense, especially in trace amounts, if the unpleasant musty and heavy undertones aren’t there.
    Brambleberry has been on my “to buy” list for a while, and I may just purchase some of their woody ones soon. Their tea FOs look interesting!
    You can’t go wrong with ginger, either, especially in trace amounts. Also, Neroli and ginger also go well together. ;) I like ginger with cypress, too!

    I’ll have to check out yuzu! And 100% agree about Pear EO’s…they never smell like the real thing and are way too purfumey 😖

    Thanks for all the feedback! I love this forum!! The information and knowledge shared is priceless 🙂 Feels good to be a part of such a warm, welcoming, INTELLIGENT community 💛

  • redcoast

    Member
    April 22, 2021 at 7:14 am
    Yuzu is great! It’s described like being a combination of bergamot and grapefruit, but it smells a little more on the mandarin side to me. ;) It’s also slightly floral and balsamic. It’s a citrus that lasts longer than the other ones, and you can blend it with all kinds of things… neroli and ginger included!
    The only problem with yuzu (and other citruses) is that skin sensitization can occur if the oil is oxidized, so keep it in a cool, shaded, dry place. Minimize its contact with air if you can. If you make any face/body lotions and other cosmetics with yuzu EO, especially in “higher amounts”, I highly recommend you have your product undergo a human repeat insult patch test (HRIPT) before you bring it to market. I also recommend you do it with any products with essential oils in them, but be aware that some are more allergenic or sensitizing than others. Citrus EOs tend to be the more problematic ones.
    Yes, I could talk about EOs and fragrances all day… not an exaggeration, either. ;) You’re welcome! :smiley:
    This is such a great community, I wish I was here earlier! Though I’ve been making up for lost time by pouring through older posts. ;)
  • abierose

    Member
    April 23, 2021 at 7:03 am

    Oh, me too…this place has become my nightly read 😁

  • graillotion

    Member
    April 23, 2021 at 8:09 am

    I also enjoy pear, but 99.9% of the pear FOs are too perfumey! I’d like to see a close replication of a ripe bosc pear… seriously, have you smelled a fresh sliced one? I couldn’t believe how delicious and complex it was!

    Do tell….about this .1% pear FO…. :) 

    (you found it…or are still searching?)

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