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  • Basic question(s) about “crosspolymer” ingredients as emulsifiers/suspension agents

    Posted by suswang8 on August 21, 2022 at 11:27 pm

    Hi, all.

    I’m trying to stay au naturel, but after seeing Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer on a manufacturer’s ingredient list, I was surprised to learn it can allegedly emulsify up to 50% oil at a concentration of just 0.2%.  Sounds almost unbelievable.

    A few questions, please:

    Are these true emulsifiers, or just suspensions?  

    Can I ask what the downsides are, if any, of using a component like this for a gel creme?

    Is there a more preferable crosspolymer-type product out there that formulators tend to prefer over this one?

    Thank you.

    Pharma replied 2 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • jemolian

    Member
    August 22, 2022 at 12:47 am

    If you mean like from the Pemulen series, then the downside will be the particle size, it won’t be as small if using a normal emulsifier. You can consider it a suspension. You can look at their formulation guide. 

    For making a gel cream, you can just use an emulsifier + carbomer combo. 

  • Pharma

    Member
    August 22, 2022 at 7:18 am

    suswang8 said:

    Are these true emulsifiers, or just suspensions?  

    Where’s the difference?
    It’s an emulsion/suspension. The effect used to stabilise it is severalfold: high external viscosity, Pickering type emulsion, and hydrophobic interactions similar to a polymeric emulsifier. It may not be perfect regarding hydrophobic interactions but that doesn’t mean anything. True, standard prodction processes will more likely result in coarser emulsions or require a higher energy input but one can as easily mess up any type of emulsion… an emulsion is not a stable system and the way how you create it is often more important than which emulsifier you use. But that’s a bit OT.

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