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  • Alternatives to glycerin for dissolving Xanthan Gum or CMC?

    Posted by Levita on July 15, 2024 at 7:04 am

    So I would like to achieve a super concentrated liquid that when added to water would make a kind of gel (like laundry gel, shower gel, etc).

    My idea was to dissolve Xanthan Gum in Glycerin.
    1g Xanthan Gum to 10g Glycerin

    At first, it’s kind of liquid, but after a day or two it’s becoming too dense gel for my liking.

    Any idea? Thank you

    Cordula replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • fareloz

    Member
    July 15, 2024 at 8:10 am

    You can’t dissolve Xanthan Gum in Glycerin. You can create a suspension (evenly distributed powder in medium).

    As a strong humectant Glycerin attracts water from the air. This water wets Xanthan Gum and jellifies it. So I don’t think you can store it as is.

    The technique is used only to premix the gum right before adding it to the water, not to store it.

  • Raychemist

    Member
    July 15, 2024 at 12:01 pm

    Consider the ratio. You can experiment with 1:20 ; 1:30 ; 1:50 .

    Then observe for some days to gain consistency. Choose the best that suits your desired requirement and perform quality assurance as well as quality control

  • julianrebecca

    Member
    July 15, 2024 at 11:42 pm

    Hi Levita,

    Have you considered making a condensed surfactant?

    You can utilize your experiment, add a surfactant and preservative then pour into ice cube trays or molds before it hardens?

    Then you can add a cube to water and boom you have your shower gel!?

  • Cordula

    Member
    July 18, 2024 at 1:28 am

    Propanediol and other glycols also could work, but the gum will sediment over time

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