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Is this the poor man’s option?
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My guess is you won’t find that product from a repacker. CP Kelco (now Tate & Lyle) is one of the only manufacturers I’m aware of for personal care, and Lubrizol is the exclusive distributor. It is also known as diutan gum, so you may have better luck searching that. The high acyl product you linked is pretty different, what is the application/intended use for the polymer?
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Yes…as a polymer @evchem2
However, with something a little bit more specific aspects in mind. I am making a viscous cream, which currently has a melt point around 38-39C. As a product that might spend some time in a brown truck (UPS) during shipment…and potentially hitting those kind of numbers… looking for some heat stability (not losing its form during shipment, which may facilitate leakage from the container)…otherwise the formula does not need this ingredient, as I already have Cetyl-HEC in place. Their marketing promotes thermal stability as well.
I do have one other question… the marketing made an interesting claim of …. “Its anionic character allows enhanced compatibility with cationic ingredients.” As my formula has 1.5% BTMS 50 as part of the emulsifier (balance is non-ionic) ….. would this gum be ‘compatible’?
Gellan gum… seems to be sourced from the same thing….so as long as the acyl type is the same…. would you suspect them to be ‘interchangeable’? I was able to find a blurb…. where George Deckner seems to pull back the curtain….and use the language interchangeably. I know the brand linked above… on another product I use…. they source from Sisterna…and I get identical performance…buying the Food grade (lower price) over the cosmetic grade.
Aloha, and thank you for your time and consideration.
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