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  • 2in1 Shampoo & Leave On Conditioner

    Posted by Rufiano on June 2, 2025 at 9:51 pm

    Hello everyone, I’m currently working on a project to create a 2-in-1 Shampoo and Leave-In Conditioner. The formula I’m using is as follows:

    Aquadest qs

    EDTA 0,05%

    Glycerin 2%

    Sodium Benzoate 0,3%

    D-Panthenol 0,5%

    Alkyl Polyglicoside 0,5%

    Cocamidapropyl Betaine 0,5%

    Natpure Feel M-Eco 2%

    Tween 80 1%

    Cetrimonium Chloride 1,5%

    Belsil DADM 3050 2%

    PEG 12 Dimethicone 1%

    CHG 0,05% 0,25%

    Lactic Acid qs (pH 4.5 - 5.5)


    But…. when I apply this product to the hair, the results are :

    1. The hair feels sticky and not smooth at all when it’s not rinsed out.

    2. When I rinse it, the results are excellent — the hair feels very light and smooth.

    So, the product I’ve developed so far does not yet meet the goal of being a leave-in product, even though it already provides a great smoothing effect.


    I need your help with suggestions and input on what I should do to achieve a proper leave-in product.

    Thank you in advance

    evchem2 replied 1 week, 1 day ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • evchem2

    Member
    June 3, 2025 at 9:46 am

    I would suggest looking at 2 in 1 products already in the marketplace- the technology for combining a shampoo and conditioner usually relies on conservation and dilution/deposition, which for these systems typically involves an anionic surfactant and a cationic polymer. You don’t have either- you have some nonionics, an amphoteric, and a cationic surfactant. Look into coacervation technology and what other major brands are doing.

    Just for your reference, I would still call a 2 in 1 product a rinse-off, not leave on (users will always need to rinse out the shampoo, the hope is your formula is able to leave behind some conditioning agents).

    • ketchito

      Member
      June 3, 2025 at 7:42 pm

      I support @evchem2 comments. Your formula looks more like a low foam shampoo. Co-washes are the closest to what you want to formulate, but keep in mind that washing your hair with a rinse-off product with good detergeny is key for a healthy scalp. I recall some TRI presentation on the topic of scalp, and the need for washing the hair/scalp regularly.

  • Rufiano

    Pharmacist
    June 3, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    Thank you sir for the reply & support

    But, I’m asking what should I change from my formula to get a Leave-In Conditioner but it still has a cleansing effect so I still use some low concentration surfactants.

    Should I increase the % of conditioning agent?

  • evchem2

    Member
    June 5, 2025 at 8:01 am

    I don’t think it’s possible to have a leave-in conditioner product that also truly cleans hair. When you say “cleansing effect” do you just want the hair to look clean or to actually have soil removed? There are a few ways surfactants remove oil/particulates, but rinsing is a critical step no matter how the soil is separated from the hair/scalp. If you don’t rinse out the hair, how else will you physically remove buildup?

    Leaving too much surfactant on your hair/skin without rinsing is likely an irritation risk. If this is for anything other than personal use, check your regulations. For a leave on product in the EU, Cetrimonium Chloride use level must be <1% (https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/cosing/details/32590) , in the US the CIR recommends <0.25% (https://cir-reports.cir-safety.org/).

    If you just want to mimic the appearance of clean hair that might be possible with the right conditioning agents, maybe some starch to absorb excess oil.

    • Rufiano

      Pharmacist
      June 10, 2025 at 2:46 am

      ah… thank you sir for the insight….

      okay that means I need to remove surfactants from my formula and is there any suggestion that the Leave-In conditioner I made can smooth the hair?

      • evchem2

        Member
        June 16, 2025 at 12:08 pm

        My concentration is skincare, not hair, so I’m not the best resource for suggestions. Very generally, cationic polymers help reduce frizz. I’d just look at market products because I can’t advise if Polyquaternium-7 vs 10 is better for a given hair type from personal experience. There are articles and previous forum posts that would offer more insight (https://chemistscorner.com/what-is-polyquaternium/) . But some cationic surfactant and the right oils/silicones could probably also support frizz reduction and help with shine.

  • jennifer.olson

    Member
    June 14, 2025 at 1:28 pm

    It sounds like you want to learn advanced cosmetic chemistry techniques. You should take Perrys course on Beginning Cosmetic Formulation. I would suggest you also enroll at the Institute of Personal Care Science. I have finished the program here but Belinda courses and chemistry degree program will give you the foundational skills to competently formulate from scratch for companies and always get good results.

    2 in 1 products really only work for people with short hair who shampoo frequently. Compare your product to the leading brand out there. Note: most consumers love bubbles and judge effective cleaning by the bubbles, your target market may be limited.

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