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  • Sodium Stearoyl Glutamate and Carbomers

    Posted by ggpetrov on June 2, 2025 at 8:55 am

    Hi everyone! I am trying to formulate a body lotion by combining Sodium stearoyl glutamate and Methyl glucose sesquistearate. In my current formula I use 0.5% SSG and 1.5% MGS. My fat phase is 10% and my rheology modificator is Carbopol ETD 2020 (Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer).

    When I am trying to neutralize the Carbopol with 10% NaOH solution - nothing happens.

    I generally mix the Carbopol with Octyl stearate and add the mixture at 60 degrees in the emulsion. I homogenize the emulsion for a minute, and then let it cools down by mixing.

    At 40 degrees I usually make the neutralisation, and this worklflow works great.

    Now with this emullsifier the magic doesn’t happen. The Carbomer doesn’t want to ticken at all.

    I guess there is a relation between the SSG as it requires relatively low Ph and the neutralisation of the Carbomer.

    I tryied to use Sodium Carbomer instead, but it didn’t want to ticken as well.

    On first sight it seems that there is an incompatibility, but then I checked “INCI decoder’s” site and there i’ve seen a lot of formulas containing both SSG and Carbomer (neutralized with NaOH).

    So the question is, do I miss something? Can you help me?

    • This discussion was modified 4 weeks ago by  ggpetrov.
    ketchito replied 3 weeks, 3 days ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • ketchito

    Member
    June 3, 2025 at 7:44 pm

    What’s the final pH your achieving with SSG and Carbomer?

  • ggpetrov

    Member
    June 4, 2025 at 12:45 am

    It’s about 6

  • ketchito

    Member
    June 6, 2025 at 6:36 am

    I don’t have experience with that system, but you can make a test bringing the pH to 7 (SSG would be fine, especially since it’s a basic salt and at higher pH, it’s be in its active form to emulsify).

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