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  • Sodium cocoyl glutamate viscosity issue.

    Posted by LeoCosmIt on December 26, 2024 at 5:40 pm

    Hi forum.

    I was trying to produce a sulfate-free shampoo as a product to wash my dry scalp.

    Here is the formula:

    Acqua

    Tetrasodium Glutamate Diacetate 0.3

    Pentylene Glycol 5

    Disodium/Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate 30

    Cocamidopropyl Betaine 10

    Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate 2

    Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate 4

    Polyquaternium-7 1

    D-Panthenol 1

    When I put all the ingredients PH is around 6.5 and it is transparent. When I add lactic acid to lower PH to 5 (which takes a lot of substance compared to when I have to lower Ph in a SLES+CAPB starting from Ph 11) the solution starts to get cloudy and finally total white. The product ends to be thick ad act as a slime, I could pour on my hand and start to play with it. It doesn’t even fall from the space between my fingers lol.

    Could you tell my why?

    I tried with different types of surfactant suppliers, even with CAPB and others.

    PS: I already tried to produce the formula without the other ingredients, only water, Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate and CAPB and the result is the same. I can only work with this surfactant if I introduce 3-4% of sodium methyl cocoyl isethionate but don’t like it at all.

    • This discussion was modified 1 day, 8 hours ago by  LeoCosmIt.
    • This discussion was modified 1 day, 8 hours ago by  LeoCosmIt.
    ketchito replied 20 hours, 42 minutes ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Abdullah

    Member
    December 26, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    Maybe it is Disodium/Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate. Remove it and see or dont reduce pH below 6 and see what happens.

  • ketchito

    Member
    December 27, 2024 at 5:43 am

    I’ve seen a similar gel phase forming with different type of anionic-cationic surfactant systems. Can you try a sample without CAPB, adjust the pH and add the CAPB at last and little by little (add 1% for instance, mix and see what happens; if the solution is still clear, add another 1%).

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