Is this shampoo formula real?

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Is this shampoo formula real?

Posted by echidna89 on October 19, 2024 at 3:41 pm

This is what my shampoo claims as its formula… it makes no sense to me. Are they hiding something?

Apple juice 2%

China grass 1%

Gotu kola plant 2%

Shikakai pulp 2%

Aloe vera juice 1%

Almond oil 1%

Coconut oil 2%

Water qs

No preservatives, no sulphate is the claim

PhilGeis replied 4 weeks, 1 day ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
9 Replies

Graillotion

Member
October 19, 2024 at 7:20 pm
I found it on Amazon. There is no barrier to entry on Amazon.

Based on the reviews, I’d probably not use this as a benchmark. 😆

Looks like it comes out of….. India (no comment).
- This reply was modified 1 month ago by Graillotion.
- echidna89
  
  Member
  October 20, 2024 at 1:32 am
  
  I live in India, and have actually been using stuff from this brand for nearly twenty years! Contrary to the reviews you’ve posted, this shampoo works wonders for my hair …I have black hair, mid back, type 1B. And it’s dirt cheap at about half the price of Head and Shoulders.
  
  It foams a lot less, but it behaves like any old shampoo out there. I suspect they’re hiding the surfactants and preservatives used, or using something that masquerades as “stabilizers”
  - Perry44
    
    Administrator
    October 21, 2024 at 5:32 am
    
    There is nothing in the ingredient list that would clean hair or create foam or preserve the product so you are most likely right. They just didn’t list the ingredients that are actually making it work. They say on the label “This is not a cosmetic” so they are admitting to not following cosmetic regulations. Therefore, you can only guess what is really in the product.
PhilGeis

Member
October 21, 2024 at 5:44 am

This is not a shampoo - it’s spoiled fruit juice
MiaPharma

Member
October 22, 2024 at 5:49 am

As far as I know the Shikakai Plant can foam and has been used since ever as a natural shampoo in India and neighboring countries. Now i don’t know about the regulations for these products there, are they obliged to list the full ingredients list? if yes then there you have it, the little foam coming from the cleanser is from the Shikakai.
- PhilGeis
  
  Member
  October 23, 2024 at 2:59 pm
  
  Shampoo and conditioner and that is not a cosmetic and may be hiding ingredients. This is a credible product?
  - MiaPharma
    
    Member
    October 24, 2024 at 5:34 am
    
    From the “Apple juice” not INCI name ingredient i will say this is indeed an incredible product 😝 i will honestly avoid using it/ copying it/ recommend it!
Microformulation

Member
October 23, 2024 at 3:58 pm

“Shikakai, also known as Shika in Tamil, Seekaaya in Telugu, and Soap pod
in English, is a powerful ayurvedic plant that has been used for
generations as a cleanser for healthy, long hair, dandruff management
and relief of skin diseases.” https://pharmeasy.in/blog/ayurveda-uses-benefits-side-effects-precautions-of-shikakai/

That said, we were once contracted to make a knock-off of this product years ago. We did do some marketing comparisons and in a US Market, it fell far short of the expectations of the US Consumer and would likely have some barriers to the market.

If your demographic is highly rooted in the ayurvedic claims it may appeal to a niche market. However, if selling in a US Market I would avoid ANY and ALL claims to any disease state whatsoever. This is not bias but is based on the regulatory experiences the line was subjected to.

pharmeasy.in
Shikakai - Uses, Benefits, Side Effects & Precautions - PharmEasy
The content has been written by a medical expert. Introduction: Shikakai, also known as Shika in Tamil, Seekaaya in Telugu, and Soap pod in English, is a powerful ayurvedic plant that has been used for generations as a cleanser for healthy, long hair, dandruff … Continue reading
- PhilGeis
  
  Member
  October 24, 2024 at 7:37 am
  Thanks
  
  Ayuverdic is as much philosophy as “medicine”. As with China and Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is as much an accepted medical practice in India as Western science-based medicine.
  
  Based primarily on legend, faith and 3rd party testimony, there is little to no application data supporting. A typical example one finds in supporting literature - e.g. agar zone of inhibition = therapeutic antibiotic efficacy vs. systemic disease.
  
  Review of Ayuverdic medicine found ~20% to present toxic levels of Arsenic, Mercury, Lead https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18728265/
  
  To the material in question - a lot of maybe’s - - and maybe not. By Western science null hypothesis - it doesn’t work until proven to work.
  - May have anti-dandruff potential
  - May help with wound healing
  - May have an anti-hair fall potential
  - Maybe anti-inflammatory
  - May have potential antifungal activity
  - May have antibacterial activity
  - May be potentially a good anti-oxidant
  - May help with hair fall