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  • Silicon Oils Emulsification

    Posted by Robert on December 30, 2022 at 8:16 am

    Does Anybody can explain if non-ionic emulsifiers like ceteareth-25 or Steareth-21 or  Peg-100 Glyceryl stearate or even Cationic emulsifiers like cetrimonium Chloride also can emulsify Silicon oils like dimethicon or cyclopentasiloxane by its own in creams. 

    Robert replied 1 year, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • ketchito

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    December 30, 2022 at 11:55 am

    @Robert You just need to check Dow’s and Momentive’s silicone catalogs, and check the emulsified ones to see what systems they use.

  • chemicalmatt

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    December 30, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    The short answer here is: affirmative. All will emulsify dimethicone with limits on loading.  Better if you can add a PEGylated dimethicone as co-emulsifier. Better yet use the BETAC instead of CETAC for best result. I’ve found the behenyl quat combined with SPDMA/Lactic acid works best for emulsifying silicone oils. An aside: unless it is already part of a silicone gum blend ingredient in the formula, I’ve never understood why anyone would add D4/D5 cyclomethicone alone into a cream or lotion for topical use, or a hair conditioner. It does not do anything but evaporate; why it’s called “volatile silicone.” 

  • Robert

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    January 9, 2023 at 10:56 am

    ketchito said:

    @Robert You just need to check Dow’s and Momentive’s silicone catalogs, and check the emulsified ones to see what systems they use.

    thank you I already checked them, most of them using Peg- as I see

  • Robert

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    January 9, 2023 at 10:59 am

    The short answer here is: affirmative. All will emulsify dimethicone with limits on loading.  Better if you can add a PEGylated dimethicone as co-emulsifier. Better yet use the BETAC instead of CETAC for best result. I’ve found the behenyl quat combined with SPDMA/Lactic acid works best for emulsifying silicone oils. An aside: unless it is already part of a silicone gum blend ingredient in the formula, I’ve never understood why anyone would add D4/D5 cyclomethicone alone into a cream or lotion for topical use, or a hair conditioner. It does not do anything but evaporate; why it’s called “volatile silicone.” 

    thank you for help, Regards Volatile oils use in creams I am using them to add slipp to hair conditioners besides they leave no residue on hair after application, I can consider them also as a solvent for other types of silicones

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