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  • Phase choice for emulsifier……. Water vs oil….and water droplet size result.

    Posted by Graillotion on July 2, 2022 at 3:37 am

    More often than not…I am using either Montanov L or 202 plus 165 and GSC.  Per many conversations…and time viewing mfg process literature, adding the Montanov product to the water phase has become my modus operandi.  (The 165 and GSC in the lipid phase.)

    So today I was watching some propaganda on an emulsifier that someone mentioned to me…. and they had an interesting video (linked) that offered 6 choices of process….of which one included adding to the water phase.

    Then they did something I do not do…and viewed it under the microscope….and this is where it became fascinating ….(if you don’t want to watch the whole video…go to about the 5:30 mark…for microscope slides) when the emulsifier was added to the water phase… the water droplet size was not nearly as small…. but they did still consider it stable.

    I am the kind of person….that might not be able to sleep…if I did not think my water droplets were not all equal sized, spaced in a covidesque equidistant spacing matrix.  :D  

    So, if I were to look at my Montanov and 165/GSC hybrid system….have I also not optimized my droplet size?  (By placing the Montanov in the water phase.)  I am guessing lamellar networks are going to come into play?

    Love to Learn… :) 

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    ggpetrov replied 2 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • ngarayeva001

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    July 2, 2022 at 11:42 am

    Have you got a microscope? It might worth the investment if you are interested in droplets size/shape. SWIFT Microscope Compound Trinocular SW350T, Research-Grade for Lab, 40X-2500X Magnification, with Wide-Field 10X, 25X Eyepieces, Siedentopf Head, Camera-Compatible, Mechanical Stage, Abbe Condenser https://amzn.eu/d/1fNsmTb

  • Graillotion

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    July 2, 2022 at 6:27 pm

    Have you got a microscope? It might worth the investment if you are interested in droplets size/shape. SWIFT Microscope Compound Trinocular SW350T, Research-Grade for Lab, 40X-2500X Magnification, with Wide-Field 10X, 25X Eyepieces, Siedentopf Head, Camera-Compatible, Mechanical Stage, Abbe Condenser https://amzn.eu/d/1fNsmTb

    Yes…my lack of looking at my emulsions through a microscope is for lack of a microscope.

    Thank you for the info…I’ll have to look into this.

    I always say…. I’ll design one more formula…and be done.  Of course, this is never true…hehehe.

  • ggpetrov

    Member
    July 2, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    According to this blog post it’s a matter of equipment rather than the given formula.

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