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  • What should be the pH of 5% lactic in water?

    Posted by Abdullah on January 2, 2022 at 1:03 pm

    I purchased some samples of lactic acid from different suppliers locally. Mixed 5% solution of each one in water and each one had different pH. 
    pH 1.2
    pH 2.5
    pH ~0.5

    As the local sellers here don’t have much information about what they are selling, just name or some small other details and if they mix think no one will know, i want to know what should be the pH of 5-10% lactic acid in water? 

    Abdullah replied 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Pharma

    Member
    January 4, 2022 at 11:35 am
    How did you measure pH? pH paper won’t work properly and cheap electrodes may not be linear below pH 1-2. Also, concentrated acid solutions will often not match the calculated/predicted value.
    Feel free to calculate it yourself, HERE‘s how. Simply calculate Ka for lactic acid and the used concentration in molar and use these values instead.
  • Mayday

    Member
    January 6, 2022 at 8:51 pm
    I have lotioncrafter 90% lactic acid. I mixed 5% and 10% solutions by mass of lactate to water.
    Mixing 5% lactate to water: 2.50g lactate and 47.5g water. With a 90% lactate solution to start with, I mixed 2.778g lactate(90) and 47.222g additional distilled water. I calibrated both my pH meters and measured the distilled water measured at pH 5.5 and 5.30. After adding the 2.778g lactate(90), got pH 1.9 and pH 1.84.
    For 10% lactate to water: 5.306g lactate and 47.812g water. Added 3.118g lactate(90) to existing solution (not including calculations here, got messy). Got pH 1.7 and pH 1.68.
    I am suspicious of the 1.2 and 0.5 because I don’t think lactic acid can get that low at 5% based on my measurements. If it’s that low, I wonder if it could be adulterated with HCl or some other strong acid. How are you measuring pH?
  • Abdullah

    Member
    January 7, 2022 at 2:57 am

    Pharma said:

    How did you measure pH? pH paper won’t work properly and cheap electrodes may not be linear below pH 1-2. Also, concentrated acid solutions will often not match the calculated/predicted value.
    Feel free to calculate it yourself, HERE‘s how. Simply calculate Ka for lactic acid and the used concentration in molar and use these values instead.

    Thanks 
    I was using pocket pH meter. 

  • Abdullah

    Member
    January 7, 2022 at 2:59 am

    Mayday said:

    I have lotioncrafter 90% lactic acid. I mixed 5% and 10% solutions by mass of lactate to water.
    Mixing 5% lactate to water: 2.50g lactate and 47.5g water. With a 90% lactate solution to start with, I mixed 2.778g lactate(90) and 47.222g additional distilled water. I calibrated both my pH meters and measured the distilled water measured at pH 5.5 and 5.30. After adding the 2.778g lactate(90), got pH 1.9 and pH 1.84.
    For 10% lactate to water: 5.306g lactate and 47.812g water. Added 3.118g lactate(90) to existing solution (not including calculations here, got messy). Got pH 1.7 and pH 1.68.
    I am suspicious of the 1.2 and 0.5 because I don’t think lactic acid can get that low at 5% based on my measurements. If it’s that low, I wonder if it could be adulterated with HCl or some other strong acid. How are you measuring pH?

    Thanks 
    I use pocket pH meter.

    I was wondering too if they are adulterated. 

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