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  • 1,3-Propanediol vs. Sodium Lactate

    Posted by DaveStone on August 3, 2021 at 11:06 pm
    If you had to choose between the two, which would be best for hydrating face toner? Or just diluted and applied before an occlusive. I know glycerin is the standard humectant, but I want something less tacky. What are the drawbacks of each? Do they virtually produce the same effect?
    Abdullah replied 3 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • abierose

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    August 3, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    Propendiol is preferred over sodium lactate when formulating with polymeric emulsifiers that are sensitive to electrolytes. I usually use both Glycerin and Propendiol :)

  • DaveStone

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    August 4, 2021 at 2:33 am

    abierose said:

    Propendiol is preferred over sodium lactate when formulating with polymeric emulsifiers that are sensitive to electrolytes. I usually use both Glycerin and Propendiol :)

    Would one work better in a formula rather than standalone (diluted of course)? Glycerin is too sticky for me to use by itself, even when diluted. Does Propanediol, if used conjunction with glycerine, alter the skin feel?

  • abierose

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    August 4, 2021 at 3:10 am

    DaveStone said:

    abierose said:

    Propendiol is preferred over sodium lactate when formulating with polymeric emulsifiers that are sensitive to electrolytes. I usually use both Glycerin and Propendiol :)

    Would one work better in a formula rather than standalone (diluted of course)? Glycerin is too sticky for me to use by itself, even when diluted. Does Propanediol, if used conjunction with glycerine, alter the skin feel?

    Well, that’s definitely a matter of preference ???? I don’t like my products to be sticky either so I keep the amount of glycerin low..like below 2-3%…and then I’ll usually match that amount with propendiol. 

  • ggpetrov

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    August 4, 2021 at 4:33 am

    Sodium lactate is much better than the Propanediol as a humectant, but can destabilize the emulsion, also at certain percent can be photo-sensitizing. I use three humectants in my lotions - Glycerine, Propylene glycol and Sodium lactate, but I don’t use polymeric thickeners, only Xanthan.

  • DaveStone

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    August 4, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    ggpetrov said:

    Sodium lactate is much better than the Propanediol as a humectant, but can destabilize the emulsion, also at certain percent can be photo-sensitizing. I use three humectants in my lotions - Glycerine, Propylene glycol and Sodium lactate, but I don’t use polymeric thickeners, only Xanthan.

    Better, as in it penetrates deeper? Or holds more water?
  • DaveStone

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    August 4, 2021 at 10:52 pm

    By the way, why does the SDS sheet on Sodium Lactate mention to rinse skin if contact occurs? Is is irritable when undiluted?

  • ggpetrov

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    August 5, 2021 at 4:23 am

    DaveStone said:

    ggpetrov said:

    Sodium lactate is much better than the Propanediol as a humectant, but can destabilize the emulsion, also at certain percent can be photo-sensitizing. I use three humectants in my lotions - Glycerine, Propylene glycol and Sodium lactate, but I don’t use polymeric thickeners, only Xanthan.

    Better, as in it penetrates deeper? Or holds more water?

    It can hold more moisture, also it’s natural for the skin, as it is part of the NMF. About the irritation - I don’t know! I have a client with a psoriasis, and her skin doesn’t mind Sodium lactate in her lotion.

  • Abdullah

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    August 5, 2021 at 6:51 am

    You have to rinse the skin if it contacted with any material even if it is not irritable.
    Even if sodium lactate is irritant, that is at 100% pure material. At 5% it doesn’t have any irritation. 

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