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  • MG-60 or a natural/naturally derived substitute

    Posted by tamicet on July 31, 2020 at 9:42 am
    Hello everyone,

    I was hoping I could get some help with an issue I have. I’m working on a project which consists of a surfactant based gel cleanser but I’m missing a key ingredient which I can’t find to purchase, nor would the manufacturer send me a sample.
    The ingredient is MG-60 (INCI: Maltooligosyl GlucosideHydrogenated Starch Hydrolysate) and its main function is as a texturizer, but it also has added benefits of being a foam quality and richness enhancer, anti-inflammatory, moisture retention promoter and cell protection provider. I need it mainly for its texturizing and foam enhancing properties.

    Has anyone worked with this ingredient? Would anyone know where I might find to purchase it or if none of the above, does anyone know of a suitable natural-derived substitute for it by any chance?
    TIA
    tamicet replied 4 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    July 31, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    That is a Hayashibara ingredient sold in the US by DKSH North America. I’ve never heard of it. Sounds like Saccharides City there, which makes sense for foam enrichment. Happy trails.

  • tamicet

    Member
    July 31, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    Thank you, chemicalmatt for replying. Could you maybe suggest a suitable natural/naturally derived alternative to MG-60 if you know of any? Any ideas? 

  • letsalcido

    Member
    July 31, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    @tamicet what do you mean naturally derived? That MG-60 sounds pretty naturally derived to me. Seems like there is a chain of maltose and glucose and broken down starch. All “natural” in my book.

    If you give people here a clearer definition of what you will consider natural or naturally derived you’ll get better answers. Maybe you mean something with a simpler or less scientific sounding name? 

  • tamicet

    Member
    August 1, 2020 at 6:41 am

    @letsalcido Thanks for your reply. Sorry, maybe I didn’t make make myself clear. Since I don’t own a company and the manufacturers will not consider me eligible for a sample and I can’t find to purchase MG-60 in small quantities, I need a substitute for MG-60 which is also naturally-derived and that is also a texturizer and foam quality enhancer, on the same lines just like you explained for MG-60. 

  • tamicet

    Member
    August 1, 2020 at 6:45 am

    @chemicalmatt I realised I hadn’t tagged you in my previous reply to you, so I just wanted to tag you here to thank you for answering my query.

  • letsalcido

    Member
    August 1, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    @tamicet glyceryl caprylate/caprate is easy to find and has similar function as the MG-60 you mention here.

    It helps (supposedly, I haven’t tried it myself) with thickening, foam stability and refattening in surfactants.

  • tamicet

    Member
    August 2, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    @letsalcido Thank you for your suggestion…I’ll give it a try :)

  • jemolian

    Member
    August 4, 2020 at 12:41 am

    I’ve seen them being sold by repackers on Taobao (China), the moisturization functions overlaps with the Betaine that i had, so i didn’t bother purchasing some to test out. Not sure if you have tried Betaine yet?  

  • tamicet

    Member
    August 4, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @jemolian Thanks for your reply - I’ll check them out. Yes, I have Betaine and have worked with it, and you are right about the moisturisation function. The thing is that I need the MG-60 mostly for its texurising and foam quality enhancing properties.

  • jemolian

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 3:29 am

    I was wondering about that so i looked at the marketing brochures again that i usually saved. Have you tried working with Betaine to see if it works for that effect? 


  • tamicet

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 6:51 am

    @jemolian Actually, no, I haven’t thought to try it. Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll make a small sample and test it to see if it comparable.

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