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  • ORGANIC SHAMPOO SEPARATING

    Posted by RUCRASHA on June 16, 2020 at 6:48 am

         organic shampoo formulation

                                                      %

    Water

    33.0

    Castile soap

    22

    Decyl glucoside

    12

    Aloe Vera

    20

    Coconut milk

    1.0

    Emulsifying wax

    cetearyl alcohol

    5.0
    3.0

    Castor oil

    2.0

    Phenoxyethanol

    0.5

    Potassium sorbate

    0.5

    Glyceryl caprylate

    0.3

    Wild berry fragrance oil

    0.6

    Xanthan gum

    0.65

    1.      Weigh ingredients in phase 1 into a clean beaker and heat to 70C

    2.       Weigh ingredients in phase 2 in a clean beaker and heat to 70C

     

    3.      Add phase 1 to phase to and ensure the temperature is 70C, turn on the lab homogenizer and turn to the second point of the rotary knob, start mixing the two phases as you maintain heat of the water bath. Mix for 40 minutes to attain a well-mixed emulsion 

    4.      Let the emulsion cool to 40C 

    5.      Weigh ingredients in phase 3, add to the emulsion at 40C, mix with the same speed for 20 minutes 

    6.      Weigh ingredient in phase 4 and add sprinkle slowly as mixing continues, allow mixing to continue until all the gum has dissolved

     

    result 

    the product separate at room temperature 

    what could be causing this  problem

     any suggest

    thanks in advance 

    RUCRASHA replied 4 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 16, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    The problem is that you are trying to turn a shampoo into an emulsion.
    The whole point of a shampoo is to remove oil. Including Castor Oil in your formula is contrary to the aim of a shampoo. Remove the oil. Then you can remove the emulsifying wax and the Cetearyl Alcohol. If you want a pearlized look, you can use Glycol Stearate. 

    Of course, your level of Aloe is too high and it just gets rinsed down the drain and you don’t really need that much coconut milk since it just gets rinsed down the drain too. Finally, your surfactant system (Castile soap & Decyl Glucoside) are going to be very drying and will leave hair in terrible shape.  Overall, you should rethink this and reformulate. Start simple. You don’t need 13 ingredients to make a shampoo. Start with 5 or 6.

  • EVchem

    Member
    June 16, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    Wow what a rollercoaster.

    1. this is not organic. Emulsifying wax contains polysorbate 60.
     
    2. you don’t have any of your phases defined but usually you do not homogenize shampoos or cleansers.

    3. Take potassium sorbate out. It only works at ph<5.5 which your product is surely not at with castille soap

    4. Take out castor oil, it will only impede performance. If you want it for claims keep at 0.01% or less. I’d say the same for coconut milk

    5. Probably best to mix the fragrance in with some of  your decyl glucoside then add.

    Why are you including the cetearyl alcohol and emulsifying wax at all? 

  • RUCRASHA

    Member
    June 17, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    Thank you so much @Perry 
    i will try and reformulate

  • RUCRASHA

    Member
    June 17, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    for the surfactant system what can i add to make moisturizing shampoo for kids 

  • RUCRASHA

    Member
    June 19, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    The reason i use castor oil is to provide moisturize effect to the shampoo, what can i use to provide moisturizing effect

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    June 19, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    My … this is one hot mess.  @Rucrasha … try this:

    Water, Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Coconut Water, Castile Soap, Sucrose Cocoate, Xanthan Gum, Fragrance, Preservative.

    This is going to have a pH of about 9.0+, so it’s not really a great shampoo for children … will sting the eyes, but you may be able to get an Organic Certification on it.

    Organic doesn’t necessarily mean good or better, so don’t confuse Organic certification with a superior product.  You can make a much better, tear-free NPA certified shampoo for children.

  • RUCRASHA

    Member
    June 21, 2020 at 6:50 am

    Thank you am going to try it

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