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Dialkylamine Oxide and Alkyl Polyglucoside
Posted by MurtazaHakim on June 3, 2020 at 12:29 pmDear members,
I am looking for dialkylamine oxide and alkyl polyglucoside for use in my formulation of CHG 4% based skin cleanser. I need a sample for these to make a prototype product. I have searched for these but did not find any promising result. Amine oxides is a family of many different oxides and Alkyl Polyglucoside is a general term without any specification.
Your valuable inputs are highly appreciated.
MurtazaHakim replied 4 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies -
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I just got myself some Lauramine Oxide (lauryldimethylamine oxide) from here https://www.makeyourown.buzz/lauramine-oxide/As for the polyglucosides, you could get some here https://www.makeyourown.buzz/decyl-glucoside/,
https://www.makeyourown.buzz/coco-glucoside/,
https://www.makeyourown.buzz/lauryl-glucoside-plantaren-1200/,https://www.makeyourown.buzz/caprylyl-capryl-glucoside/There’s plenty of other vendors out there. Looking for those names in ULProspector will yield plenty of distributors that carry them outside of the DIY market.
I looked up “polyglucoside” in UP to confirm the glucosides I know of are actually those, even though the molecules I’ve found online show only one glucose moiety per molecule of detergent.If you don’t have an account with UL Prospector get one. It’s a great resource to find distributors or raw materials and data.
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There are many products under the category of Alkyl Polyglucosides and Alkyl amine oxides. I am in search of something which is used in products like skin cleanser. I found BASF’s Plantaren series of Alkyl Polyglucosides. Furthermore are Alkylamine Oxide, Dialkyl amine Oxide and Alkyl dimethylamine Oxide all same ???
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@MurtazaHakim Yes, there are many surfactants from each of those groups. I have only been able to source from the repacker market those that I already listed, which are all suitable (and actually widely used) for skin cleansers. Some of the links I provided are actually the equivalent of the BASF Plantaren series (decyl, coco, and lauryl glucosides) but they’re from a repacker, so they don’t use the commercial name, and of course we don’t know if they got them from BASF or another company.
Why is the requirement to use those types of compounds? Perhaps you’re reading this and trying to replicate a formulation from a patent?
As for your question if “ Alkylamine Oxide, Dialkyl amine Oxide and Alkyl dimethylamine Oxide” are the same yes and no:From wikipedia an amine oxide:
Consider the following:
Lauryl (dimethyl)amine oxide (aka lauramine oxide)
cocamidopropyl (dinethyl)amine oxide (this is most specifically a dimethyl amidopropyl amine oxide)
decyl (dimethyl)amine oxideAlkylamine Oxide is the most generic group, any or all of the 3 (R1-3) moieties can be any alkyl to be named this.Dialkyl amine oxide is probably used to refer to any tertiary amine oxide where two of the alkyl groups are the same. So this one is a bit more specific than the above.Alkyl dimethyl amine oxide is the most specific, it means at least 2 of the 3 alkyl groups are a single carbon (methyl).All alkyl dimethyl amine oxides are dialkyl amine oxides, and all dialkyl amine oxides are alkyl amine oxides. But the opposite is NOT true.That was the long answer. The short answer in cosmetics sounds to me that yes, they’re basically the same. Most of these amine oxide surfactants have two methyl groups and only one longer chain alkyl or amidopropyl group and they’re amphoteric.
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I am trying to formulate a skin cleanser with Chlorhexidine Gluconate as the active ingredient. Since CHG is cationic in nature I need surfactants which are either non-ionic, amphoteric or cationic in nature. I am aiming for stable foam coupled with antibacterial efficacy and moderate viscosity (around 1000 cps).
There is a product by Ecolab called Hydrex surgical scrub which is what I am trying to emulate.
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