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Body cream
Posted by bella82 on October 22, 2019 at 10:00 pmplease look at my cream and help me make some adjustments. I have made some adjustments but am still not getting the creamy silky velvety feel.
Here it is.
Water 67%
glycerine 2.2%
ceteareth 20 4.5%
olive m 2.2%
cocoa 15%
Macadamia nut 6.7%
petrolatum 9.4%
liquid paraffin. 5.4%
Preservative 1%
parfum. 1.3%
cyclopentasiloxane 4.4%
edta. 0.2%
citric acid 0.2%ph is 3.4.
PS: this is my first body cream.ngarayeva001 replied 5 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies -
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First, D5 has already been severely restricted in use levels. 4.4% does not comply.
Second, do you mean actual cocoa? Your cream is a dark brown? What is “olive m”? -
Apologies for the abbreviations.
Tgis is the formulationwater 67%
glycerin. 2.2%
cetearyl peg 20 steerate 4.5%
cetearyl/sorbitan olivate. 2.2%
cocoa butter 15%
macadamia nut oil. 6.7%
petrolatum. 9.4%
Liquid paraffin. 5.4%
preservative. 1%
parfum. 1.3%
cyclopentasiloxane. 4.4%
edta. 0.2%
citric acid. 0.2%since cyclopentasiloxane is restricted, what is the max % allowed. Can I swap it with isopropyl myristate.?
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If I may, Cyclopentasiloxane is not restricted! It is poisonous for aquatic life, and thus it WILL be restricted soon in the EU in rinse-off products.
“products containing either ingredient (D4 and D5) in a concentration higher than 0.1% will not be allowed on the European market after Jan. 31, 2020.”
Source: https://www.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/regulatory/region/europe/EU-Effectively-Bans-D4-and-D5-in-Wash-Off-Products-474982233.html
It is totally safe to use so if this is for personal use and in a body lotion just continue to enjoy these wonderful volatile silicones! -
@bella82, let me start from saying that your formula is ok. If you are not happy with the aesthetics, you can do the following:
1) Decrease your oil phase to 20% total (I would even say 15) but if it’s for dry skin, keep 20.
2) Keep the petrolatum - it’s amazing and reduces TEWL
3) If you already have isopropyl myristate, reduce the cocoa butter and macadamia oil to the minimum and add isopropyl myristate. You don’t get a nice silky feel because you have chosen draggy and heavy oils.
4) I am a bit concerned about stability when it gets to cyclopentasiloxane because it’s a bit on the high end and your emulsifiers are not specifically designed for silicones. You should either decrease it to 2% or introduce silicone emulsifier. It’s up to you.
5) Although cyclopentasiloxane is great, just for your information, another option if low viscosity dimethicone (say dimethicone 5 or dimethicone 10)
6) The most important thing, you should add polymeric emulsifier to get that silky smooth feel. If you let me know where you are based I will recommend the DIY supplier that have those. But I am generally talking about a class of ingredients that are called hydrocolloids derived from acrylic acid. For example Aristoflex AVC, Sepinov EMT 10, Sepiplus 400, Pemulen Ez4U etc. -
Well the good thing about England is that everyone delivers here. Makingcosmetics is sold on Amazon here (although expensive). The best option is this ingredient MakingCosmetics - GelMaker® EMU - 4.2floz / 125ml - Cosmetic Ingredient https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G0RIV20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nonSDb0HG0A50
Probably get something else to justify this ridiculous delivery price. It’s a very versatile and easy to work with ingredient. Reduce emulsifiers, reduce heavy oils and add 1% of this gelmaker.
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