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  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    BTMS-50

  • Nubian

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    Kerabase LC

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    September 3, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    What else is in the formula?

  • andriannav

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    Perry said:

    What else is in the formula?

    AQUA
    Behetrimonium
    Chloride
    Cetrimonium
    Chloride
    Sodium
    Phytate
    Betaine
    Panthenol

    BABASU
    OIL

    Cetearyl
    Alcohol 
    Dimethicone
    Phenoxyethanol

    Cyclopentasiloxane
    Hydrolyzed
    Wheat Protein

    Nubian said:

    Kerabase LC

    Nubian said:

    Kerabase LC

    Nubian said:

    Kerabase LC

    Nubian said:

    Kerabase LC

  • Gunther

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    Perry said:

    What else is in the formula?

    AQUA
    Behetrimonium
    Chloride
    Cetrimonium
    Chloride
    Sodium
    Phytate
    Betaine
    Panthenol

    BABASU
    OIL

    Cetearyl
    Alcohol 
    Dimethicone
    Phenoxyethanol

    Cyclopentasiloxane
    Hydrolyzed
    Wheat Protein

    Is that a rinse-off or a leave-on product?
    If that’s a rinse off, then you can get rid of Sodium phytate, protein and panthenol as they’d just end up in the drain without doing anything noticeable to hair. Perhaps get rid of the basasu oil too.

    If it’s a leave-on product, then get rid of betaine (Is that actually cocamido propyl betaine?) as its a surfactant, and surfactants aren’t meant for leave on products.
    Get rid or sharply lower the protein as it doesn’t really do anything to hair and will leave a sticky feeling.

  • andriannav

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    it’s a rinse-off product…which emulsifier do you recommend??

  • andriannav

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    Cetearyl Alcohol and Behentrimonium Methosulfat??

  • Gunther

    Member
    September 3, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    Cetrimonium doesn’t seem to be too different from Behentrimonium
    both work good enough
    https://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/5938/anyone-else-believes-cetac-fatty-alcohol-is-more-detangling-and-conditioning-than-btms/p1

    So for a rinse off product you can try something like
    - Cetrimonium/Behentrimonium 2-3% (in an active basis, check to see how much active ingredient it has as supplied).
    - fatty alcohol 3-4 %
    - silicone 1-2%
    - preservative

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