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  • Ceteareth-25 Usage Beyond Recommended 3%

    Posted by SPMX on May 12, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    It’s my first time working with Ceteareth-25. I’m working to formulate a thick hair firm gel/pomade to use for styling hair. My formulation has the recommended max of 3% but it apparently isn’t enough as the end result is still very fluid, too fluid. This batch is just 64 oz so that I could get a feel for it. How far can you actually go in percentage(s) with Ceteareth-25 and before it will no longer integrate or dissolve in water?

    Water 80%
    C-25 3%
    Glycine Betaine (Beta vulgaris(Beet)) Sugar Extract  2.9%

    PEG-40  2.4 
    Methyl Gluceth-10  2.3%
    Ethylhexyl Olivate  2.2%
    Citrullus Lanatus Seed Oil 2%
    Hydrolyzed Linseed Seed 1.85%
    Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil 1.5%
    Fragrance 0.75%
    Phenoxyethanol (and) Caprylyl Glycol 1%

    Thanks for any advice or help!
    SPMX replied 5 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    May 13, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    Search for hair pomades in previous conversations. I remember several questions about it within last couple of months.

  • Fekher

    Member
    May 15, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    @SPMX you need to reach  25%  of ceteareth 25 or more to have thick pomade .

  • SPMX

    Member
    July 15, 2019 at 9:08 am

    Fekher said:

    @SPMX you need to reach  25%  of ceteareth 25 or more to have thick pomade .

    Thanks Fekhr. I upped it to 21.8%  which worked well but I noticed condensation on the finish product after a few days.

    D Water            61%
    Ceteareth 25.   21.8%
    Vegemoist         2.9%
    PEG 40 Hydro Castor   2.4%
    Methyl Gluceth 10    2.8%
    Ethyhexyl Olivate     2.5%
    Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil  1.5%
    Hydrolyzed Lin Seed Oil. 1.85%
    Fragrance    0.75%
    Phenoxyethanol (and) Caprylyl Glycol 1%

     
    I’m going to decrease the humectants down to  5%, cut the oils, up the C-25 to 25% and the hydro linseed to 0.90% 

    Thanks!

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