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Polyacrylate ‐ 13, Polyisobutene, Polysorbate 20
Posted by Dtdang on January 25, 2019 at 12:41 amHello Friends,
Anyone has experience for using “Polyacrylate 13, Polyisobutene, Polysorbate 20”. Would you please sharing your experiences?
Thanks in advance.
Dtdang replied 5 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 21 Replies -
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There is demo on youtube. It looks like easy emulsion and stable.
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New stuff called gel trap.
I just tried
the cream is so good, absorbed quickly and no grease
after 5 minutes , my face looks normal without cream -
I’ve red about geltrap. It is a combination of sepiplus and easynov.
Since you tried already, what is the difference in the end result between using easynov alone and easynov+sepiplus? -
the result is better in term of silky, smooth, spread and feel
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Only I concern about safety bc I don’t have safety records of this ingredient
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I can’t find easinov but I have Sepiplus 400. It’s a good cold process emulsifier. I wouldn’t say that it can tolerate high amount of electrolytes as the manufacturer claims, but it’s easy to use and give a very nice silicony afterfeel.
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I don’t think you really need sepiplus for the geltrap. All the work is done by easynov. I think just by adding polyacrylate in the water phase should give the same result.
I haven’t used sepiplus 400, but I’m pretty sure is just an other great product from seppic. -
Also use sepiplus 400, it’s not my favorite but that polyisobutene is supposed to give that rich silicone feel. I recently used it as my only emulsifier with ~7% oil and added in oil phase and the end result looks a little greasy/gluey, but it does feel relatively nice and absorb quickly.
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@em88
You’re indeed not limited to Sepiplus 400 with Geltrap™,I’ll include a document from Seppic.File size is too large. :# Geltraps are always with Easynov, but next to Sepiplus 400, you can also combine with Sepinov EMT 10, Sepimax Zen, Sepinov P88 (and I’m sure polymers from other manufacturers can be used as well).I’ve made HIPe’s with Easynov, but still have to make a Geltrap™. As far as I know the only difference is in the process. Geltrap™ is oil to gel and HIPe is always water (or gel) to oilphase.
I’ll also include a HIPe formula (the one Belinda Pilmore makes in the video on UL Prospector).
I wasn’t that overwhelmed by a ‘wow- effect’ (the HIPe with Easynov) I must say. I expected more (maybe too much) of it somehow. -
Dtdang said:@em88, do you have the link ?
I believe you want the link for the article I mentioned?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2011.01951.x
Octyldodecyl Xyloside is part of easynov, not sepiplus 400.Dtdang said:@EM88
I just try another small batch with only Sepiplus 400 and Caprylic Capric Triglycerides. Cream looks great.I’m sure about this and the sensorial effect should be even better.
Dtdang said:@EM88, after reading article, I will email to SEPPIC to ask the safety of Sepiplus 400. I like it because it works for small % amount of oils. It is great for eye cream.Sepiplus 400 can be used for making gels and o/w emulsions (creams). Indeed it will work for small amounts of oils. Glad to hear that you have great results.
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@Dtdang
You can also make Geltraps without Sepiplus 400. In a brochure of Seppic that I have (that unfortunately is too large to share here) they also mention the use of Sepinov EMT 10, Sepimax Zen, Sepinov P88 instead of Sepiplus 400. These are all Geltrap formulations.Edit, addition: So then it’s Easynov + Sepinov EMT 10, Easynov + Zen etc. (always with Easynov)
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To be brutally honest, “gel traps” is a term rarely used in real Cosmetic Chemistry, In this case, it is a Seppic promoted term. I have even talked about this with the head of Technical at Seppic at a seminar.
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