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  • Help with formula from just a list

    Posted by Pasko on February 6, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    Hi :) Thanks for your help in advance.
    Just to begin im not a profesional (at the moment hehehe)
    i create lotion with my daughter at our free time. we tryed to make this lotion because it give us a nice result. but we can get the formula :)

    this is the list of ingredients maybe someone can help us to create this lotion

    Purified Water
    Propylene Glycol
    Mineral Oil
    Stearic Acid
    Cetyl Alcohol
    EDTA
    Glyceryl Stearate
    Aloe Vera Gel
    Triethanolamine
    White Protopet
    Dimethicone
    Propyl Paraben
    Methylparaben
    Allantoin
    Carbomer
    Propylene Glycol
    Diazolidinyl Urea
    Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

    Anyone have the formula water phase and oil base even the cold down.

    Very very apreciated to help us in our litle project

    em88 replied 6 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • em88

    Member
    February 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    Do you have all the ingredients mentioned in that list?
    Do you have all the equipments necessary to develop that formula? 

  • Pasko

    Member
    February 6, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    yes we do another formula already with high shear mixer, stirrers heating plate. i know is not like a cake ;) and we have 90% ingredients already
      

  • Doreen

    Member
    February 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    You can’t expect people here to make a formula just for free based on your list of ingredients.

    This might be a very useful site for you. Lots of (beginner) formulations.

  • Microformulation

    Member
    February 6, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    It is a pretty simple product, much like every Pharmaceutical disappearing base I was making when I graduated in the late 80’s. However, as @Doreen81 properly points out, the Chemists in this forum pay their bills by “creating this Formula from a list of ingredients.” If you are set on doing it yourself, I would study the HLB system (that is how the emulsification system was designed), evaluate any marketing bias that you must deal with in the selection of raw materials (parabens, Formaldehyde donors, etc.), look at typical percentage levels and solubilities of common actives (such as Allantoin) and lastly look at how carbomer is used as an emulsion stabilizer and how to neutralize Carbomer. It is not the most daunting starting Formula, but to be successful there would be a learning curve.

  • Pasko

    Member
    February 7, 2018 at 3:19 pm

    thank you very much for quick reply, i will do a simple formula at this time in my head it was very simple hahahahaaha i keep dreaming maybe

  • Microformulation

    Member
    February 7, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @Pasko If I were looking at it as a learning exercise, this is not a bad Formula to start with. As I posted above it touches on several areas of education;

    •  The HLB System and how it is used to design emulsions with nonionic emulsifiers; https://caliscc.org/images/presentations/Mentor_2015_HLB.pdf
    • Intelligently addressing market bias. This Formula uses parabens, Formaldehyde donors, silicones, propylene glycol, petrolatum and mineral oil. In the base market (mainstream Cosmetic markets and Pharmaceutical bases these products are generally more acceptable as the raw materials are less stringently critiqued form a “natural” marketing point of view. If you were making this product for a niche market where “natural” (not a real term) you would need to evaluate these issues closer.
    • The role of Carbomers and other viscosity modifiers as “emulsion stabilizers” and how they are “neutralized” to gain their effects.
    • What are the actives (such as Allantoin here) and what benefit they bring to the product?

    Again, if you are looking at it as a learning experience, it is a good start. If you are looking for a product fast or in a “natural;” market, it isn’t your best option.

  • tanelise

    Member
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    @Microformulation, thanks for the pdf on the HLB system 

  • em88

    Member
    February 8, 2018 at 8:07 am

    It is hard to come up with a formula without trials. 
    I’d suggest to extract the ingredients from the list that have the effect you are looking for and introduce them into a formula you have more experience. 
    First thing you should do is to identify the role for each ingredient. This is how learning starts :)

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