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  • HOW TO KEEP HEAVIER OILS FROM SEPARATING IN OIL CLEANSER SOLUTION

    Posted by ritag on August 6, 2020 at 3:34 am

    im mixing 

    olive oil 60%
    castor oil 20%
    polysorbate 20%

    would like to blend effectively so the heavier oil doesnt settle at the bottom.  appreciate your expertise and insight, thank you:)

    Pattsi replied 4 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Dr_Sara

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 7:33 am

    Hi
    Is this the complete formula? Are you adding any water? 

    I think the oils and the polysorbate are separating because they are not miscible. 

    Which polysorbate are you using? PS80? If there isn’t an aqueous fraction, why add the polysorbate? 

    I am not sure this has helped at all. More information would be useful.

  • ritag

    Member
    August 19, 2020 at 2:52 am

    yes @Dr_Sara i am using polysorbate 80… sorry forgot to specify… this formula has been fine mostly… but then i added DAIKON extract which is an oily ingredient and i just noticed more seperation…  just curious if there is a substance that helps heavier and lighter oils blend and stay blended?

  • Pattsi

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 2:17 pm
  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Right on, @Pattsi . C12-15 alkyl benzoate: as I always say what CAN’T Finsolv TN do?  I’ll also remind of the ‘ol lecithin trick. A little bit of lecithin and most lipids start to play well with one another and their co-surfactant. I’ll also continue @Dr_Sara train of thought: why employ a surfactant at all? Oil cleansers are just that: oil. Maybe add just 3% TWEEN 80 to help rinse off face (and clothes) and leave it at that.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 10:53 pm

    Vegetable oils are not polar enough to mix with Polysorbates. I run quite a number of experiments with different oils and Polysorbates. The thing that works for sure is Alkyl Benzoate and Polysorbate 80. I have disagree on 3%, it will leave greasy after feel. 10% is a bit more pleasant, although I use 15%.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 10:56 pm

    If you need a surfactant that works with a variety of oils it’s Cithrol 10 GTIS by Croda. Works equally good with mineral oil and veg oils. Although I prefer alkyl benzoate + Polysorbate 80 combo, because the latter is more gentle on eyes.

  • Pattsi

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    i’m not sure about alkyl benzoate + Polysorbate 80 combo is more gentle than Cithrol 10 GTIS. didn’t ran a comparison test but on the internet DIY blogs/posts use polysorbate 80 up to 20 i was like what? 20%?

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