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  • Emulium Delta

    Posted by belassi on February 5, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    Anyone with any experience of this emulsifier from Gattefosse? It looks seriously useful.

    cherri replied 8 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Margaret2

    Member
    February 9, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    I have used Emulium Mellifera, not Delta, but here’s my opinion of Emulium Mellifera: 

    I made a light lotion that contained, among other things like 2% cetyl alcohol,  0.2% EDTA, fragrance etc. at appropriate levels:
    4% Emulium Mellifera & 4% olive oil & 4 % sunflower oil.
    I added 0.2% xanthan gum to my oils phase because the Gattefosse people suggested it as one of the additions to enhance the stability, because I like using plant oils in my stuff & they said it is much harder to emulsify plant oils than silicones. They also suggested guar gum, but I don’t have any.
    I find the lotion nice, it does not feel oily, does not leave any negative-feeling residue. It seems to go into the top layer of my skin rather quickly, but I guess this also depends on one’s skin dryness.
    I made the lotion Nov. 17/15, today is Feb. 9/16. Not a long period to test stability I know,  but the lotion looks, to my  naked eyes, the day it did when I made it. 
  • belassi

    Member
    February 10, 2016 at 3:17 am

    they said it is much harder to emulsify plant oils than silicones

    wow, this is the reverse of normal. So I guess if you have a product with a lot of silicones it’s good for that. Is it expensive?
  • Margaret2

    Member
    February 10, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    I do not know the price of the Emulium emulsifier line. 

    I wrote the above when I was not near my notes and I remembered incorrectly about what I was told regarding emulsifying plants oils. Here is what I was told by Gattefosse, regarding emulsifying plant oils. SORRY FOR THE ERROR I WROTE ABOVE! :(

     Polarity of oil phase is a source of emulsion destabilizing that is why it is usually common to use non polar oils (like paraffin, cheap synthetic oil) that are more easy to stabilize in an emulsion form.

    Vegetable oils are difficult to stabilize but still you could achieve stability if you use the right mixt.

  • belassi

    Member
    February 11, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Thanks for your help. Gattefosse make a big thing of how it makes liquid crystal emulsions. Is there any benefit to that, I wonder? So many things I don’t know yet.

  • vitalys

    Member
    May 30, 2016 at 1:06 am

    I used to work with Emulium Delta. I find it an excellent emulsifying mix, extremely versatile and able to give the range of products from milk to thick cream. Very easy to work with

  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    July 3, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Yes Margreat, I also like Gattefosse’s “natural” emulsifier, Emulium Mellifera however it is quite costly so doesn’t fall easily within clients’ budgets. (It tends to have good stability though).

  • cherri

    Member
    July 21, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @Belassi yes this is such a great emulsifier- ecocert and no-peg emulsifier suits well for natural brands. didn’t your product come out a thick cream? based on my experience I had to add some silicone in order to reduce soapiness

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