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  • Konjac root powder

    Posted by belassi on April 29, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    My order of 20oz of this stuff just arrived from Thailand. It is a light-brown powder. I tried adding about a quarter teaspoon to a glass of water to see what happens. After ten minutes it is still a mass of particles, stirred, it looks like dirty water. This is normal?

    curious100 replied 8 years, 11 months ago 9 Members · 19 Replies
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  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    April 29, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @Belassi:

    It behaves like a gum … your best bet is to homogenize it.
  • belassi

    Member
    April 29, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    I’ll try in a little while when I get back to the lab, but at an hour and a half it is still the same, no change.

  • belassi

    Member
    April 29, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    I blended it for several minutes and it still looks like pond water with a sediment :(

  • belassi

    Member
    April 29, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    Added a lot more powder. Now it looks like really muddy water. There is NO evidence of any kind of gel. No thickening whatsoever. And this would not make a product… except if you want a mud pack. I think I’ve wasted my money.

  • DavidW

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 2:40 am

    I have a sample I got a few weeks ago but haven’t had time to have my chemist play with it yet.  I think they are not all the same though.  You may need to get from a specific source to get the gel your looking for but I am not certain.

  • belassi

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 6:29 am

    I can’t even see this working as a diet aid. It says 100% konjac root powder on the packaging. It’s muddy, gritty. It reminds me of henna or turmeric. 

  • Kirk

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 8:25 am

    Did you try to heat it while mixing? Maybe its worth a try.

    BTW: where did you source your konjac gum? I would like to try it at our lab. 
  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    April 30, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    @Belassi

    What you are describing … muddy, gritty .. similar to henna … is not Konjac Root Powder.
    Konjac Root Powder is a pale beige color, similar to Xanthan Gum, and forms a clear gel when used at 1%.  At percentages less than 0.5% if thickens, but does not gel.
  • belassi

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    Dog knows what they have sent me (from Thailand). I will take it up with the supplier. I tried heating it and it made no difference. It’s just as if I took some fine dry soil from the garden and mixed it with water. How disappointing.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    First, get a water content from a couple of grams, then see if it’s flammable. That way, you’ll at least have some ammunition when you talk to the supplier. 

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    Perhaps something like this would be a better choice for experimenting with Konjac?

  • belassi

    Member
    April 30, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    Bob, you’re quite right. There is, it seems, some abiguity about what konjac root powder is. The stuff in that Amazon supplier’s bottle is krp extract. What I bought was, apparently, actual dried konjac root powder, not the extract. As to if it has any use at all, I have no idea. Make it into a face mask perhaps … (grin)

  • DavidW

    Member
    May 4, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    The sample I have is called Konjac Mannan Gel Powder.  It is off white in color.  I have not tried it yet.  Comes from a supplier named Kinetik in New Jersey. 

    The manufacturer is GFN http://www.gfn-selco.de  They are in Germany

  • braveheart

    Member
    May 5, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    The one I have is off-white in colour and creates a gel IMMEDIATELY its in contact with water. 
    What they supplied you is not the real thing.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    May 5, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    @belassi, if you really have powdered roots, maybe you need to find out how the Glucomannan is extracted from the root?

  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    May 5, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    The konjac I have is an off white powder which gels very quickly and a 1% solution is slightly cloudy and viscous. If you’d like my supplier’s details please do PM me.

  • belassi

    Member
    May 5, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    I think I have enough problems right now with imports. A sample from the USA is held up (DHL) while the supplier (a really big company) tries to clear it, and I also had to return $400 worth of licorice to China. I’m going to forget about this.

  • Zink

    Member
    May 6, 2015 at 3:34 am

    I have used the Now Foods powder Bobz refers to and it does indeed form a gel, different in texture than both xanthan and carbomer though, more “stringy”.

  • curious100

    Member
    March 7, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    I made a gel using 1% Konjac Root Powder using room temperature distilled water. I noticed that the gel is unstable as it liquefy in 48 hours at room temperature. I must try adding xanthan gum and heating it to 90C. The only problem is when I apply this gel on the skin, it rolls/rubs off the skin. How do I fixed this? Should I use less and use other thickeners? I want to make a thick gel that includes Konjac Root Powder. 

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