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  • Glycerin vs Glycerin?

    Posted by Anonymous on November 27, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    I made a formula using some glycerin that I got from from Amazon and liked how it turned out…
    I then made the same formula with glycerin from Bulk Apothecary and it looked the same but didn’t last as long. Its shelf life is less.

    I’m guessing there’s some variation between the 2 glycerins. Does anyone know how you distinguish between different types of glycerin? They both say “Vegetable KOSHER USP FOOD GRADE.”

    MarkBroussard replied 8 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Chemist77

    Member
    November 28, 2013 at 1:31 am

    If USP grade then it means food grade, it’s beyond comprehension why you are getting this anomaly. Maybe some processing difference from different suppliers. 

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    November 28, 2013 at 8:39 am

    I’m not sure what you mean as “didn’t last as long”.  What happened to the product?  Was it microbial contamination?  That is a likely explanation.  One source produced the glycerin under proper conditions and the other didn’t.

  • Duncan

    Member
    November 28, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    what’s the strength?

    USP is usually 99.9% (ish) , there are other grades out there that are as low as 85% - perfectly good as food grade, but the extra water may cause a problem.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    November 29, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Perry: the gel dried out, got crusty etc for the one glycerin in about 6 months; the other one stayed moist and true to its original gel consistency for 18 months and counting.

    milliachmeist & Duncan: The “good” glycerin has a COA available, http://www.essentialdepot.com/msds/coa%20glycerin%20kosher%20food.pdf which says 99.84% purity. I am still waiting to hear back from the other supplier for purity/strength - maybe that will be the explanation?

  • LianePamuspusan

    Member
    December 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    On another note about glycerin, does anyone know of a supplier that carries Glycerin RM  w/o sulfate impurities? All the ones that I know of are w/ sulfate impurities. 

  • alchemist

    Member
    December 15, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    The test for sulfate is a Pharmacopoeial limit requirement, pretty sure anyone will leave it off the C of A if you ask nicely.  ;) 

  • LianePamuspusan

    Member
    December 17, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    @alchemist Thank you for the info! =)

  • JOJO91343

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 9:06 am

    There is Glycerin (99.5%) from Cremer Oleo (Supplier):
    http://cremeroleo.com
    Reference: Formulary Nature I Classic - Edition 2015 - drstraetmans

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    January 6, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    This sounds like more of a packaging issue than a Glycerin issue if your gel dried out … I suspect the seal was not tight on one allowing for evaporative loss of water over some period of time.  Glycerin is not volatile.  All depends on what else is in your formula.

  • johnb

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    Mark, this thread has been resurrected from 2013 - I don’t think the originator cares very much now.

    I was caught out this morning by the same overkeen newbie.

  • MarkBroussard

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    January 6, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Ahhh … didn’t even notice that.  Thx.

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