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@Perry okay, I want to learn. I signed up for the course.
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Wow! Thanks… I think ????♀️ This is very important, valuable information. Now I need to reevaluate my life ????
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Hellooooo ????????
Thank you for accepting my request. I already made an error in where, what, and how I posted, so I apologize. I’ve read the rules and advise and will do my best to meet those.
My name is Ellie. I live in Northern California, I have been an esthetician for 20+ years. I started formulating some basic products (masks, massage lotion) for use in my treatments. I found some simple formulas and followed and then tweaks those. Over the next few years, I slowly started getting more courageous and trying to create products that I wanted to use, but weren’t made by the skincare company I was buying from. I had some success and was really enjoying the process. When Covid hit and I couldn’t work, I decided to try to create and more complete line of skincare products. I was able to set up a lab in an unused home winery on my parents property. I am incredibly fortunate to have a built in customer base and have been able to grow slowly and organically. I am now up to near 20 products. They have been very well received and selling well. I have been impressed with the results my clients, and myself are seeing. I am now trying to make the products more elegant. As I start stepping out and experimenting, mostly with emulsifiers, I am quickly aware of how little I know. I am excited to be here and learn for all of you. I have really found a passion in formulating.
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I apologize, please disregard.
like I said, I’m new. I was just reading the COC and I will revise and ask questions appropriately. I am really excited to be here.
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Hi!! New here. Just came across this post. I have been an Esthetician for over 20 years and started making products to use in my treatments, nothing to difficult, found some simple recipes and edited to my liking. Over time, I really enjoyed it and wanted to create the products I wanted to have. When Covid hit and I couldn’t work, I decided to give it a really go. I have created a skincare line with @20 products. I am so lucky that with my built in customer base, clients, local friends, and family, I have been able to learn as I go and make improvements all the time. I set up a lab out on my parents property, a small unused home winery. So, I am very much a fake it till you make it “chemist”, the more I learn and experiment, the more I realize I don’t know anything. However with my knowledge and understanding of the skin and what people want and need, my formulas are very ingredient heavy. I have essentially no overhead and I’ve only been doing direct sales, so the ingredient cost can be “ absurd“. My philosophy has been to really utilize the power of natural oils, extracts, antioxidants, actives, and essential oils in combination. Focusing on actives and ingredients that fall in the 1-2 safety (ewg).
Perry, you saying that you’re confused by people who use multiple plants extracts, antioxidants, and natural oils (with similar fatty acid profiles). I do all of these things ????, well the oils I try to make a list of all that would be beneficial for the skin type/condition I am formulating for and then select ones with various profiles. As for the extracts, they too have so many different benefits, so combining to make a more comprehensive product, and as far as antioxidants, I thought that combinations improved that performance of each other. I am very curious to hear if and why my understanding is flawed.
I feel like I and my clients are getting great results. I feel like where I am seriously lacking is my understanding of emulsifiers. When I started, I made all lotions, face and body with Olivem 1000, with XG, with the addition of BTMS-50 in body. In serums, pretty much just Aristoflex, Polymuse and Siligel. Everything starts to feel the same, and don’t love the “soaping” of the Olivem. I don’t like the stickiness of XG, or the serums ( I am also using HMW HA) which I know has that profile as well.
I have been playing now with Eumulgin SG (with GMS) without much success in lower percentages for thinner products, I’ve also added 6% Olivem 1000 with that, it separated. I’ve used Oliwax, Oliwax LC, and Ceteryl Alcohol as thickeners. I’m just not really having any success with these. I would like to work on combinations or different emulsifiers, but this is where my lack of education is getting me. Any thoughts or advice would be so greatly appreciated. If any of this even makes sense to a professional ????
cheers! Ellie