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DING  DING  DING   it looks like neutragena TSal inactive ingredient list is incomplete as bill said . I just received a bottle of the Glucamate LT per belassi suggestion and guess what ?  same color, consistency ans SMELL as the TSAL product  looks like the main ingredient by volume is   Glucamate LT .    

thanks again all 

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oh BTW HEC gives me separation issues  trying to get it thinned out prior to mixing as it separates to surface  any suggestions

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well bill you are correct  after I purchased said product listed as thickener I read I t was a thinner , sure nuff just .5oz of hexylene glycol turned a half gal of semi thick shampoo into water , 

will try the xanthan gum  , believe I tried it in past and I t made product hazy but ill take thick over appearance . already had used what perry suggested but when I get to 4ph it thins out . im shooting for 3 to 3.5 as the Salicylic acid goes from %90+ at 3ph to less than %10 availability at 4 .   

anyone know if “carbopol ” is same thing as carbomer 940 ?  makers of carbopol claim works to ph 4  but ive tried the carbomer and same issue at ph 4

thanks for all input let ya know what works best

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only place I seen it is sigma Aldrich  500g 50 .00     Glucamate LT  32.00 a pound  and is easier to find  so I will try that first  thanks

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answered my own question  actually need to add sodium benzoate if im at 6-6.5  ( any lower it carbomer thins ) and yes citric acid use was minimal