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Sorry for the delayed response- Thank you @grapefruit22 for sharing that!
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I understand. :'( Thank you very much for your time and comment, @Perry.
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Thank you @MarkBroussard. I appreciate it!
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So @Belassi, would you say that adding 0.2-0.3% (20-30% total aloe vera juice [in face wash formula]) is far too much, then?
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I am sorry. I should have specified that I don’t mean including 20-30% of the pure 100x powder.I meant 20-30% of a 100% aloe solution. So adding 0.2 or 0.3% of the solution, if I am not mistaken…
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@NeilL Leucidal SF Complete, but this reaction btwn the surfactant and citric acid is taking place before I have added the preservative, and there are no changes for the better or worse after adding the preservative.
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Thank you, @Perry.
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:'( Still got clouding as soon as pH gets around 7.5. Any lower and the milky/opaque characteristic(s) are back. Hmm…
I definitely observed the citric acid reacting with the surfactant in some kind of way…
Anyone know of any ways to remedy this? Is there another pH adjuster that would be better?
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@Pharma Thank you for this information. My pH does often drop to about 4.5-4.8 when I first adjust with the citric acid, though not below that. My preservative brings it back to around 5.0-5.5. I guess in the future it would be worth it to try to avoid getting as close to the 4.5 range while I am formulating. Hopefully this will help. Thank you again.
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@ngarayeva001 I have tried sodium cocoyl glycinate on its own, and sodium cocoyl glutamate on it’s own. Each time I formulated to have just 1% active surfactant concentration in my end product(s).
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@ngarayeva001 Thank you for the suggestion! The surfactant I am using thankfully isn’t creating any squeaky clean sensation. My skin feels just fresh, not sucked-dry or anything. But it just seems that my skin is still very irritated by being washed, even with gentle formulas. Hard to avoid washing my face, though, as I get blemishes if I don’t. Finding a solution has proven to be a conundrum.
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Thank you for your input, @Gunther. Right now I’m using sodium cocoyl glycinate at only 1% active surfactant and still finding it a bit drying at times.
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Thank you for sharing @ngarayeva001!
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Thank you @MarkBroussard and @Perry, I appreciate this information!
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Thank you for the reminder to stay critically minded, @Perry!
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I just thought I would post this here if it could be helpful to anyone else.
According to the manufacturer website @Pharma provided (thanks again!), the amino acid surfactants Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate and Sodium Cocoyl Glycinate are both considered to be quite mild.
However, the Glutamate ones are described by them as “moisturizing, mild, and soft” as well as “hypoallergenic.” While the Glycinate ones are described as “leaving the skin feeling ‘fresh’ without leaving it taut” and as having “high foaming properties.”
So I would say that based on the descriptions by one of the pioneers and major manufacturers of these surfactants, the Glutamate would probably be most ideal for anyone seeking the mildest option.
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Thank you so much, @Pharma!
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Thank you, @Perry!
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Thank you @Perry!
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@Perry I just mean are they going to combine together as one, or would they separate. Sorry if it’s the incorrect word usage.
@JonahRay Just water with either 0.5% or 1% Hyaluronic Acid and 4% sodium cocoyl glycinate (25% active matter).
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Thank you for sharing, @MarkBroussard!
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Look, I’m just wondering whether it’s true or not. To me it sounds BS, but on the other hand I have watched a YouTube video of a dude using a water/glycerin mix to easily and thoroughly remove a thick layer of motor oil from his hands and arms. That’s why I am just curious what affects glycerin has in cleansing systems, if any. Not looking to use glycerin as a cleanser or degreaser, just wanna know if it has any affects on skin lipids.
If anyone has any slightly more constructive thoughts on this, I’d be very appreciative for the information.
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Thank you @EVchem and @Perry for sharing your thoughts!
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Thank you @MarkBroussard.