[Katalynna]

Thanks. I.ll give a try to centrimonium chloride and I.ll include panthenol but make no claims.

[Katalynna]

The first one is lavender wirh sweet orange essential oils.

I can try again a version with btms.

I know it.a a wash off and primarly intended to clean but I can tell the difference for different formulas. For my fine hair I do not use conditioner and I don.t like humectants.

So if no proteins, humectants, silicones… what is to include?

Thanks I looked at one of my suppliers and found centrimonium chloride. It says that is a surfactant with conditioning properties to use in a conditioner.

[Katalynna]

It is a hair care oil I make … a mix of castor, olive, argan, coconut infused with some plants… it.s only 3% and I used it before I don.t think is the cause.

But I read that BTMS is not friend of surfactants .. did I get it wrong? If no protein, what is good for hair? Keratin? 

I am not sure I can find centrimonium chloride… I buy small quantities and have access at regular cosmetic suppliers . I.ll take a look.