Doreen
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I hear you. I would like to produce my own batches though, but only for a small market, I’m figuring out what the possibilities are, and all the regulations, which are a lot.
I’ve got a strong feeling that this is the direction that I want to go further into. I don’t know yet how and just having a feeling ain’t enough.
Although I did formal courses/trainings on how to start and keep a small business running (in the past), there still is so much involved. And since those trainings lie in the past, I would really need to update my knowledge. With ‘formal’ courses I mean, here in the Netherlands, if you wanted to start a business, no matter how small, you were obliged to follow these and I have the papers for that. Nowadays these courses are no longer an obligation if you want to start something, but I would surely recommend it.
And competition in this branche is gigantic, there isn’t exactly a shortage of cosmetic products c.q. companies… so I’m afraid, after all the searching and figuring out, I’ll come to the conclusion to just keep it as a hobby…
We’ll see. Excited about @Perry ‘s courses. They can always come in handy!Wishing you good luck aswell!
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I see that there is a company that specialise in small production runs (down to $300)
What do you mean by that? The 300 dollars is the sum of the costs for…?
Do you want to start your own cosmetic line and don’t want to do the production yourself?
I’ve been considering starting something aswell, real real small. Or somehow be working in this branche, whether it’s my own company or someone else’s.
My passion has always been preparing pharmaceutics, whether it’s preparing parenteral chemotherapeutics in a clean room environment or making bulk or ad hoc skin products/dermatics. (I’m a pharmacy technician in a GMP certified hospital pharmacy btw)
And now that the preparating aspect in pharmacies becomes less and less, even in hospitals, my job becomes less and less interesting.Sorry for being off topic, but I’m really considering a career move.
Good luck with your plans and aspirations, Pete!
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@Belassi, sorry I now see it’s an old thread.
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I get my fine powdered oatmeal from the supermarket in the bakery section. I also couldn’t get the whole particles fine enough with a mortar or a kitchen blender.
Maybe there are supermarkets or bakery shops over there aswell that sell the fine powder?I see you already have a solution. As fine as talcum, nice!
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No problem. Done. I hope it wins and you get that publishing contract.
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@emily.flemer , no offence but it’s getting annoying finding your post under almost every thread.
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If you’re looking for a pearlescent effect, you need to look for mica (also on the ingrediënt list as ‘mica’), but I think you already know that if you formulate eye shadows…
http://www.u-makeitup.com/useful-info/what-are-coloured-micas/
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Do you mean powdered pearl? It doesn’t give a pearlescent effect, it’s used as an anti-aging agent.
http://www.makingcosmetics.com/Pearl-Powder_p_40.htmlWhat does the highlighter you mention say on the ingredient list, if you give more detailed information, people on here can help you better.
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@David, thanks!
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@johnb, Exactly, like sodium hydroxide to adjust the pH in tiny amounts for example.
Maybe the menthol and or camphor also contributed in some way?
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I’ve used a 1% BHA leave on exfoliant for daily use on most of the face, I did wonder sometimes if the salicylic acid wouldn’t cumulate somehow and cause systemic side effects. I’ve never experienced side effects, but I kept it in mind.
On here more cases of intoxication after topical application, also the dizziness you mentioned.
(The cases mentioned are 10% or much higer on inflamed skin and large areas of the body btw)Strange that they mention the 1% somewhere on the label but not in the ingredient list?
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Wow… I hope you feel better now!
What was the concentration of the salicylic acid by the way?
At the public pharmacy I used to work years ago we sold products up to 50% dispersed in petrolatum for warts, onychomycosis etc.
A warning for potential severe systemic effects surely isn’t out of place then!Did you experience good results with aloe vera in case of skin inflammation or with other problems?
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This is so recognizable that I have to mention it: I have the same problem with adding allantoïn (0,5-0,7%) to a (clear) aloë vera toner. In my case it happens already after a month or so, shake it, clear again.
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Do you mind telling me what you use the oatmeal for?
I’ve had good results with Grahams (2,5% oatmeal) when I had an allergic outbreak, which is the reason I’ve started using oatmeal myself.
I found a supplier selling the oatmeal kernel extract, which I hope is less sensitive to contamination and contains more avenathramide.Good luck for finding methods for analysis in your product btw.
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I just downloaded it, looks interesting! Thanks for the tip!
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@johnb, again a rather old post exhumed.
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Thank you for the advice, all of you (although this isn’t even my post, btw).
Of course I am not offended, no worries! I am very inexperienced indeed. The only background I have in Chemistry, is on high school level, and even before I became a pharmacy technician. I find Chemistry to be very interesting, but extremely diffcult aswell. Since all the dermatics I prepared through the years were protocolled and standardized, I never had to formulate, so no experience there either.
That’s why I’m so glad I have found this forum. I’m very eager and willing to learn more about this. I’ve only been on this forum for a few days, and I just can’t stop reading.
I hope you all excuse my inexperience and not so great/fluent English.
I can imagine this can be frustrating to deal with.About the exfoliating cream: I did test it on my arm first (‘inner’ arm skin).
The skin there can probably handle a lot more. And now I know my neck is even more sensitive than my face. Oh well, a little itchy and redness and a lesson well learnt.
@johnb, too bad sodiumbicarb really alters the cream because of the carbondioxide. I also used it to adjust the pH of my vitamin C serum…
I find it really hard to find out which pH adjuster you need, especially the make something less acidic. At work it’s mostly sodium hydroxide.@MarkBroussard, thanks for you advice. I will ask my distributor if they sell sodium lactate. Thanks!
One more question: It’s quite hard for me to get salicylic acid (which I prefer). I saw a company selling uncoated asprin tablets for use in DIY exfoliating products. I was amazed, can you really use acetylsalicilyc acid for salicylic acid? And there must be additives in those tablets, the question is what they do.
@palerider, I hope you get your answers aswell.
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@johnb, I think I experienced those problems because it was too acidic. Is it then so strange to ask if adjusting the pH with sodiumbicarb is an option?
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I’m also wrestling with a formula for a leave-on exfoliating cream.
I made a batch with urea and lactic acid with a pH of 3.0 and I’m still suffering the consequences by using it once, my face has calmed down, but my neck and and decolleté/upper chest are still irritated, especially the neck.
Would sodium bicarbonate be a good pH adjuster?