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I have come across several discussion forums where people cite a study in which it was found that too much caffeine was actually detrimental to hair follicles. However, I seem to have drawn a blank in trying to find said study. I know Alpecin uses around 2% in their shampoo, much less in their leave on product. On the other hand I have found hair preparations (leave on) which have as much as 6% caffeine but this is from a company which is rather well known for creating skin and hair products with astoundingly high levels of actives to create marketing hype. Does anyone have any information on this front?
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Can no longer edit the above but was also wondering about lecithin as an emulsifier?
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Just sniffing around the web and wondering if Plantamulse would be an option? I’m not familiar with it but it seems that some companies use it for water/oil emulsions. For example:
http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/7012656/7422491.htm
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Thank you guys, very helpful
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You’re quite right. I read it over just now and realised that
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Brilliant advice, thank you!
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Thanks John, I hear you! I have found a ton of sources for this product, Ebay, Amazon and a multitude of online chemists so it should work for my ultra low scale operation.
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I’m hoping to find an alternative to home distilling at this point for simplicity so thought I would examine a few other options.
I came across this stuff, Baxter Sterile Water. Its distilled/sterile. On the bottle it states, “this solution is not isotonic and is hemolytic.” In the listing it states it is hypotonic, I presume this reflects the fact it is low in salt content?
Does this look like it would work for formulating cosmetics, I will be using it for products with a toner like consistency ? Kind thanks!
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Thanks guys!
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It’s intended for the skin but I’m toying with the idea of using it as a scalp serum to stimulate hair growth, having been unable to find an actual scalp product which doesn’t have some irritating ingredient or other. How it will work for such an application I’m unsure, will have to try and determin whether it feels sticky. Anyway, I thought it may be of interest to the original poster.
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Sorry this is an old thread but I have been looking into the topic myself and found this product which contains 5% caffeine:
http://theordinary.com/product/rdn-caffeine-solution-5pct-egcg-30ml
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@Microformulation. Thank you! Do you know a source online where I could buy the Leucidal Complete Liquid?
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Really? Very interesting! I have Leucidal SF and Coconut AMTicide in my collection which I would be happy to use in a combo of 2%/2% but I keep reading negative information about it online. Does anyone use these two combined successfully?
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Thanks Belassi. I have access to any of these:
- A blend of phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol and chlorophenesin
- Phenoxyethanol in an emollient base of Caprylyl Glycol
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Right! I have purchased myself a lab hotplate and heatproof mat, absolutely perfect!
Bob, Belassi, would either of you guys be for hire to write me absolute idiot proof step-by-step instructions? I still have some questions in regards to a few things now I am adding heat. I also want to settle on an excellent preservative system that remains gentle to the skin.
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Excellent suggestions from you both! You are both a wealth of knowledge. I would rather spend a bit of money on a set up which will make life easier for me in the long term than mess around over the kitchen stove! That never feels hygienic. I have set aside a room to act as a little lab.
How about my proposed preservative? Phenoxyethanol in a base of caprylyl glycol at 0.5%? Is this acceptable on its own? And finally should I just bite the bullet and add a chelator due to the heavy metals in the veg moist or unnecessary?
Kindest thanks!
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They are allowing me to return the scales and I have bought a nice new set complete with power adapter. Problem solved.
Anyway, I made the recipe and it came out pretty much as planned, my skin loves it.
However, upon further reading I feel I should probably abandon my preservative system and get hold of something a bit more trustworthy? I have found a preservative here in the uk which is basically Phenoxyethanol in a base of Caprylyl Glycol. Suggested usage rate is 0.5 - 1.5% Any thoughts on this?
Would it be overkill to to add an EDTA to this recipe? As I understand it there is a very low degree of heavy metals present in the Vegemoist (Betaine.) It will be kept in the fridge and used up in around three months max, so not sitting on a shelf in a store for months on end or anything! However I want to make sure I create something a safe and stable for myself as possible.
I have been mixing this all up cold. Would it also be advisable to heat and hold the water vegemoist and glycerine to 75 degrees for 20 minutes or would this, again, be overkill? Perhaps I could just give the deionised water a thorough boiling?
I wish there was such a thing as an electric bain marie with a thermostat to make the heat and hold phase simpler and I can’t find a simple device of this type online. I’m unsure of how to get my stove to accurately heat and hold! Any tips would be much appreciated.
I’m making much of this tiny recipe aren’t I! I like to get things right!! Thanks guys.
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I bought it on Amazon. I will shoot them off a message.
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Unfortunately not. None that I can see. Can anyone recommend a set of scales that specifically doesn’t do this? I’m in the uk but seem to be able to find most stuff online.
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Hi Guys,
I am having a bit of a nightmare! My Triton scales keep turning off after about 30 odd seconds or so. Is this a normal battery saving function as it’s driving me utterly nuts! I’m trying to do some of the smaller liquid measurements by the drop for accuracy and its a ridiculous race against time! The instructions say they turn off after 2 minutes of inactivity but I’m actively using them when they shut off and it doesn’t seem like 2 minutes!
Ahhh, there is a damn fine reason we should leave these things to the cosmetic chemists!
Kind thanks!
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Yikes, hijacked!
I’ll whip it back onto topic by saying that I just received all the factors needed for this recipe, including a set of shiny new scales as per your recommendation. I just wanted to say thank you to you kind gentlemen once again for so very graciously helping me out. I am now ready to proceed with full confidence thanks to you all! -
Actually I think I’ve answered my own question… the gluconolactone acts as the chelator which binds heavy metals and scavenges any free radicals!
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Ah, that makes sense John. I agree, leucidal is not a suitable preservative. I know some companies are using it with its sister product Coconut Amticide now (which is what I do in my own DIY mixture for ease but, then again, I use it up quickly and refrigerate it.)
I’m happy to pay the (I know, VERY overinflated) price for this product simply because my skin is hugely settled by it when so many other products simply irritate it. My greatest concern about this formula is the potential for it to turn into a pro oxidant on the skin due to the use of green tea and lack of a chelating agent. Preservative system aside, would you say there is any reason for concern on this front or am I over thinking it? Kind thanks for your insight.
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John I think you hit the nail on the head with the term trendy! Yes, its a ‘hope eco line’. The whole “greenwashing” saga is a shame as it has lead to a myriad of products which could be so much better if the formulas were complete.
I suppose the bottom line, wild price tag aside, is that this essentially isn’t the safest stuff to be putting on one’s skin?
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Thank you Bill!